I totally agree. The initial reason I contacted the Web Foundation was exactly that I found their definition of "meaningful connectivity" very technocratic and narrow. At the same time I understand that from their perspective it makes sense to produce a simple metric to surface the inequality in Internet access around the world (the actual percentage of connected people is lower if you define it in terms of continuous, quality connectivity).

I mostly think of it as two things that need to be done, which both fall under the concept of "meaningful connectivity". In this sense we should somehow safeguard the concept for what we refer to as meaningful in our context. I feel that we could do this with them, instead of against them.

What do others think about this? It would be useful to also share previous experiences that some of us possibly had in the past with the Web Foundation.

Vassilis Chryssos
Board Member / Administrator Non Profit Organization
28 Karaiskaki str., 10554 Psirri, Athens, Greece
Tel: +30 211 8002730, Mob: +30 694 794 8786

Στις Τρί, 15 Οκτ 2019 στις 12:51 μ.μ., ο/η Sol Luca de Tena <> έγραψε:

Hi Vasilis, 


Thanks for this. 


We/Zenzeleni refer to meaningful connectivity in terms of usage and it's applicability to have a positive impact on peoples life. Catalyzing this kind of meaningful connectivity is one of the focuses of Zenzeleni NPC.


I think it's very valuable to discuss with the Web foundation and as a concept going forward. I understand the value of what the Web Foundation poses, but I feel very strongly that this is not the only measure of meaningful, even though measuring impact is far more complex than hard data.


Considering the Web Foundations ability to communicate, it would be a lost opportunity to not attempt to expand the definition. 


I may not be in the IGF but would happily connect remotely if that's a possibility. 


Regards, Sol




From: [] On Behalf Of Vasilis Chryssos
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:29 AM
To: CNSIG Council
Subject: [CNSIG-Council] Collaboration opportunity with the Web Foundation on meaningful connectivity


Greetings to all,
I have recently returned from a trip to NYC, where I had the opportunity to speak with Dhanaraj Thakur, Research Director at the Web Foundation, about the foundation's "meaningful connectivity" campaign ( When I came across this campaign it seemed kind of odd that they define "meaningful connectivity" in technical terms only, so and I pursued a meeting with Dhanaraj to discuss on their project and explore possible synergies with Community Networks.

In short, there is a problem with how we currently define Internet connectivity: when we say that 50% of the global population is online we are also counting people who have been online once for the past three months from any device. This is actually far from being usefully connected. Thus, the web foundation is making an attempt to describe how a "meaningful connectivity" should be measured, by defining four metrics: right speed, adequate device, enough data and frequent connection. To this end they have drafted a measurement framework ( which they are currently testing in an ongoing research in Uganda, Indonesia, Ghana and Colombia.

The idea proposed from my side was for the Web Foundation to work with CNs around the world to test the framework in a community network environment. This can provide powerful insights to their approach and at the same time offer us a potentially useful tool which we can apply for our impact measurement. At the same time we will have the opportunity to speak about "meaningful connectivity" in terms of empowering local communities to make the most out of telecommunications technology. In any case I think it will be a strong use case with a potential to promote global visibility for all the involved stakeholders.

Dhanaraj was enthusiastic about this and very warm on taking it forward. Although as we speak the Web Foundation does not have the financial resources for such a project, Dhanaraj seemed confident that we can manage to raise some funds through a common proposal.

Some representatives of the Web Foundation will be participating in the imminent IGF in Berlin. I think it is a very good opportunity to set up a meeting with them and discuss about this further.

What are your thoughts on this?

In solidarity,


Vassilis Chryssos
Board Member / Administrator Non Profit Organization

28 Karaiskaki str., 10554 Psirri, Athens, Greece

Tel: +30 211 8002730, Mob: +30 694 794 8786


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