Dear Luca

The first draft declaration looks good. I will add DEF's definition of community networks as well in the pad.

regards
Ritu

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Federica Giovanella <federgi82@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,


let me first of all introduce myself: as you can see, my name is Federica. I work at the University of Trento (Italy) as a post-doc in law and I am involved in the netCommons.eu project (together with Leandro Navarro and many others). 


I have been following this list for the last 5 months and I very much like the idea of the Declaration. 

I would only like to make two remarks:


- do we consider all the features contained in list under point 2) to be equivalent? If so, I would specify it; otherwise it might seem that privacy is not as important as open design (and I am not saying it should be more/less important or equivalent. I am just asking :)

- the same applies to the list under point 3) that includes the rights and freedoms of the participants in CNs.  Here I would also make a small modification: the very last part of point 3) says that CNs members have "the obligation to extend this set of rights to anyone according to these same terms." I would state it more clearly, in a "stand-alone" sentence, as to give to this obligation more importance. I believe that this is a key feature of CNs: one should never believe that CNs are something that can be only exploited without sharing his/her infrastructures, efforts and so on.


Hope this helps. 

Best,


Federica



Da: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> per conto di dc3@bob.ma <dc3@bob.ma>
Inviato: venerdì 30 settembre 2016 19.48.04
A: 'Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity'
Oggetto: Re: [DC3] Declaration on Community Connectivity v.0
 

I thank Nicalas for raising the first square mile issue. It’s part of the larger rethinking of connectivity as infrastructure rather than networks.

 

For the purposes of submitting a declaration I’m not too concerned because there is only so much one can do in writing. Hence the value in a workshop.

 

The basic problem is that very words we use to talk about connectivity implicitly that networks are like railroads and we depend on third parties for rides. Hence all the effort to petition “them” for better treatment and few restrictions on what we can do with their networks. Even when they are “our” networks it is still a sense of ownership just with the “people’ as gatekeepers. The focus on access is part of this.

 

The big idea of “best efforts” means we can composite individual efforts without having a network as such. Like having roads and sidewalks to facilitate mobility. It is important to realize that we are not limited to using roads and sidewalks – we got around millennia before they existed. They just facilitate movement and transport. The flip side is that they don’t assure anything. Concepts like access and services are not part of the infrastructure but rather way we use the common infrastructure.

 

What is important for empowerment is that anyone can contribute. Just as important is that it is now “owned” by the community in the sense of the ability to exclude but only in the sense of shared stewardship as when a local board or government collects money and hires people to manage the facilities. (Volunteering is a mechanism in lieu of cash).

 

One complicated factors is that today’s Internet protocols and relationships are very much old-paradigm and whatever we do should coexist just as a home network coexists with telecom – we just buy a path through it. Calling that path “access” is valid but misleading.

 

Again, this is a lot to unpack in email and I’ve said much of this before so ….

 

From: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] On Behalf Of Luca Belli
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 08:53
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: [DC3] Declaration on Community Connectivity v.0

 

Hi all,

 

I have tried to consolidate the ideas put forward in this list regarding a Declaration to be presented at the IGF.

I have added the draft to the pad created by Nico to collect our ideas https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration

You can also find this “Draft Zero” in attachment.

Please, do not hesitate to share your comments on the draft or to modify the text using the pad.

 

I suggest we submit this first draft to the IGF Secretariat, to signify that we want it to be discussed during the IGF Main Session on Dynamic Coalitions (see the Secretariat’s email below). Then, we will have the next month to discuss and modify/refine the text of the Declaration and submit a second draft by 1 November (see email below). Lastly, we can discuss the Declaration at our pre-IGF event, on 5 December. What do you think?

 

Please share your thoughts on this by 15 October, so that we have time to elaborate a second draft and discuss it on the list.

All the best

Luca

FGV Direito Rio

Luca Belli, PhD
Senior Researcher
Head of Internet Governance @ FGV
luca.belli@fgv.br
+55 21 3799 5763

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From: Eleonora Anna MAZZUCCHI <EMAZZUCCHI@unog.ch>
Date: 5 September 2016 at 20:33
Subject: [DC3] IGF 2016 Main Session: Papers from DCs
To: dc@intgovforum.org
Cc: Markus Kummer <kummer.markus@gmail.com>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org>


Dear All,

Thank you for continuing to contribute to the planning for Dynamic Coalitions' main session at IGF 2016!

With apologies for cross-posting (!),  as we move closer to the meeting and begin to refine the content of the session, all DCs should kindly note the requirement to produce individual substantive papers. As agreed during DC Coordination meetings, submission of the paper will be necessary for the DC to participate in the main session. The deadline for a first draft is 30 September 2016.

Further details on the paper are included below this message and as an attachment. The information is also available on the DCs Coordination page, together with any other documents pertaining to main session planning.

Please do not hesitate to reach out to the Secretariat for any questions or feedback on this! We would be happy to help.
 

Very best,

Eleonora
IGF Secretariat





 IGF 2016 DCs Main Session: Substantive Paper

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