I share your concerns. I did get a chance to speak to Michael Kende at IGF last year and felt that he was able to get a sense of connectivity outside of the traditional framing. But, overall, the sense is that, indeed, they are accepting the traditional idea that the Internet is basically just another telecom service and a series of (water) pipes rather than a new infrastructure. When I see mention of cost/benefit I wonder what metrics they are assuming.

From: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] On Behalf Of Raoul Plommer
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 02:13
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: Re: [DC3] Dynamic Coalition on Innovative Approaches to Connecting the Unconnected

Very interesting Nico. We'll have to keep a close eye on them and see that they are exposed in the way they should be.

It really feels like they're stealing our thunder and making it profitable for those mega-corporations, instead of just giving people free access. We'd really want some person to maintain the database of networks and their solutions, once the material starts coming in. I wonder, if we'd actually be able to use some of their research and data for our more benevolent project.

-Raoul

On 17 November 2016 at 09:04, Nicolás Echániz <nicoechaniz@altermundi.net> wrote:

On 11/17/2016 03:45 AM, Raoul Plommer wrote:
> "We collate information from different sources, organize and synthesize
> them using academic standards, and provide this information in an easy,
> searchable and digestible form. Our commitment to academic standards, as
> well as the fact that we are the first such initiative to make an effort
> to compile such information, makes our work complementary to the number
> of ongoing efforts."
>
> Well, I'll be damned. We obviously need to work together.


Well I wouldn't go that far :)


I see Facebook, Verizon, World Economic Forum as Dynamic Coalition Speakers here:
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/documents/igf-meeting/igf-2016/910-dc-connecting-the-unconnected-igf2016session/file

and it makes me think: we can maybe share some work, but I don't exactly imagine us working together as in with a common perspective.


I've been invited to a WEF organized event in Buenos Aires a week ago framed in the Global Connect Initiative and the Internet For All program. I can assure you there was almost no one there sharing perspectives with most of the people I know from our DC3. Lots of big telecos, banks, credit card companies, etc. The words may sound similar but the focus is very different.


I guess it will be interesting to see what this Dynamnic Coalition will actually be working on in the future.


Cheers,

Nico
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