Hi Marcelo, Jane, all,

I agree with Jane that as this process is open to all stakeholders it would be good to get as many submissions as possible in from each of our organizations. Basically submissions can be of any length and they need to answer the questions included in the consultation. Those are:

  1. How will new and emerging telecommunications/ICTs impact both the internet and sustainable development, including the digital economy?

  2. What are the opportunities and challenges for the adoption and growth of the new and emerging telecommunications/ICTs and internet?

  3. How can governments and the other stakeholders harness the benefits of new and emerging telecommunications/ICTs?

  4. What are the best practices for promoting human skills, institutional capacity, innovation and investment for new and emerging telecommunications/ICTs?

The details about how to submit are in the link shared by Marcelo: https://www.itu.int/en/council/cwg-internet/Pages/consultation-oct2019.aspx

APC will be making one, aiming to submit it by the 13th Dec, to avoid last minute changes over the holidays. If any of you feel that you prefer to work collaboratively on that one rather than making your own, please write me a private message to coordinate. Similarly, there will be a meeting of Civil Society Organizations during the IGF Berlin discussing a strategy for this, so if you are coming and interested in joining this meeting, reach out in private as well.Likewise, if you or your organization are planning to make an individual submission and think we can support in any way, feel free to reach out too.

by the way, totally agree with you, Marcelo on the nuances between concepts as well as in the need for more national influence.

best,

carlos

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 11:34, Instituto Bem Estar Brasil <instituto@bemestarbrasil.org.br> wrote:
Hi Jane, totally agree...

About the national discussions over this PC on ITU, i perceived that we
need to strengthen the local incidence too. Even with the efforts of
ISOC Brasil, IBEBrasil and a few others to preserve the CN concepts, the
debate to insert small comercial providers as CNs was strong.


Then its important in this consultation to put these differences about
between one model and the other to avoid the kidnapping of the concepts
I know that this approach will need to be done diplomatically, then,
lets us keep talking strategically about this in national incidence too


BR

Marcelo Saldanha


Em 15/10/2019 19:10, Jane Coffin escreveu:
> Marcelo -
>
> Thank you for this
> It would be worth discussing a coalition strategy to get as many responses in to this proceeding __ when they ask for comments.
> We used one of these consultations on IXPs to inform governments, provide information to people, and to speak about the issues at the ITU when they held an open meeting.
> It goes a long way to provide good data to people, and to get the positive story out there!
>
> Best,
> Jane
>
>   
> Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>
> Skype:  janercoffin
>
> Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
>
> On 10/15/19, 4:40 PM, "dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net on behalf of Instituto Bem Estar Brasil" <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net on behalf of instituto@bemestarbrasil.org.br> wrote:
>
>      Hi everybody, here is the public consultation about (or not about :-))
>      Community NetWorks...
>     
>      https://www.itu.int/en/council/cwg-internet/Pages/consultation-oct2019.aspx
>     
>      I think that the debates push the issues to a more generic way about the
>      concepts of who really is a CN.
>     
>      With this position its possible to conclude that they choose the middle
>      way. like Buda could said :-).
>     
>      Lets participate.
>     
>      BR
>     
>      Marcelo Saldanha.
>     
>     
>      Em 23/09/2019 21:48, IBEBrasil escreveu:
>      > Hi Judith. Thks for the updates.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Att,
>      > Marcelo Saldanha
>      > Instituto Bem Estar Brasil
>      >
>      > Hi Judith. Thks for the updates.Att,Marcelo SaldanhaInstituto Bem Estar Brasil
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > -------- Mensagem original --------
>      > De: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com>
>      > Data: 23/09/19 21:23 (GMT-03:00)
>      > Para: dc3@listas.altermundi.net
>      > Assunto: Re: [DC3] ITU Public Consultation about CNs
>      >
>      > HI Marcelo,
>      >
>      > The decision was made last Friday. I attended the ITU session remotely.
>      > I posted the questions to the list already
>      >
>      > Best,
>      >
>      > Judith
>      >
>      > _________________________________________________________________________
>      > Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>      > Hellerstein & Associates
>      > 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>      > Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>      > Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>      > E-mail:Judith@jhellerstein.com    Website:www.jhellerstein.com
>      > Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
>      > Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>      >
>      > On 9/23/2019 8:18 PM, IBEBrasil wrote:
>      >> Hi Jane. I think that the decision will be made in this friday about
>      >> the public consultation.
>      >>
>      >> https://www.itu.int/en/council/2019/Pages/default.aspx
>      >>
>      >> BR
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Att,
>      >> Marcelo Saldanha
>      >> Instituto Bem Estar Brasil
>      >>
>      >> -------- Mensagem original --------
>      >> De: Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
>      >> Data: 23/09/19 18:49 (GMT-03:00)
>      >> Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>      >> <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >> Assunto: Re: [DC3] ITU Public Consultation about CNs
>      >>
>      >> Hi All –
>      >>
>      >> Do we know what the result was from the ITU Council CWG Internet?
>      >>
>      >> I am hearing that CNs are on the agenda for comment from
>      >> February-September?
>      >>
>      >> Jane
>      >>
>      >> Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>      >>
>      >> Skype:  janercoffin
>      >>
>      >> Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
>      >>
>      >> *From: *<dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> on behalf of Carlos
>      >> <carlos@apc.org>
>      >> *Reply-To: *Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>      >> <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >> *Date: *Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:36 PM
>      >> *To: *Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>      >> <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >> *Subject: *Re: [DC3] ITU Public Consultation about CNs
>      >>
>      >> Hi Marcelo, thank you very much for flagging this and sharing the
>      >> text, very interesting data inside it.
>      >>
>      >> In the past CWG-Internet in February, both Canada and the UK proposed
>      >> also community networks as a topic for discussion. You can find all
>      >> the contributions here: https://www.itu.int/md/S19-RCLINTPOL12-C/en.
>      >> The countries who opposed community networks at the plenipot also
>      >> blocked this from happening at the CWG other delegations
>      >>
>      >> With a strong country from the Global South like Brazil submitting it,
>      >> this time the result may be different. Let's follow up the result.
>      >>
>      >> best,
>      >>
>      >> carlos
>      >>
>      >> On 2019/09/05 18:58, Instituto Bem Estar Brasil wrote:
>      >>
>      >>     Dear fellows I am writing here to ask for all of u to pay
>      >>     attention about the public calls that the agencies are doing in
>      >>     the member states to make suggestions to the public consultation
>      >>     of ITU about CNs
>      >>
>      >>     I will share the doc with some suggestions, that the folks of
>      >>     ISOC-BR and Luca helped to make it better :-) in the last draft of
>      >>     Anatel.
>      >>
>      >>     PS.: Remebering that this doc is it in the context of the
>      >>     brazilian contributions
>      >>
>      >>     BR
>      >>
>      >>     Marcelo Saldanha
>      >>     IBEBrasil
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>     _______________________________________________
>      >>
>      >>     DC3 mailing list
>      >>
>      >>     DC3@listas.altermundi.net  <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >>
>      >>     https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
>      >>
>      >> --
>      >> Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD
>      >> Local Access Policy and Regulation Coordinator
>      >> Association for Progressive Communications
>      >> https://www.apc.org/en/project/connecting-unconnected-supporting-community-networks-and-other-community-based-connectivity
>      >> Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
>      >> Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
>      >>
>      >> _______________________________________________
>      >> DC3 mailing list
>      >> DC3@listas.altermundi.net
>      >> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
>      >
>      > -------- Mensagem original --------De: Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Data: 23/09/19  21:23  (GMT-03:00) Para: dc3@listas.altermundi.net Assunto: Re: [DC3] ITU Public Consultation about CNs
>      >      HI Marcelo,
>      >      The decision was made last Friday. I attended the ITU session
>      >        remotely. I posted the questions to the list already
>      >      Best,
>      >      Judith
>      >
>      >      _________________________________________________________________________
>      > Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>      > Hellerstein & Associates
>      > 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>      > Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>      > Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>      > E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com   Website: www.jhellerstein.com
>      > Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
>      > Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>      >
>      >
>      >      On 9/23/2019 8:18 PM, IBEBrasil wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >        Hi Jane. I think that the decision will be made in this
>      >          friday about the public consultation.
>      >
>      >
>      >        https://www.itu.int/en/council/2019/Pages/default.aspx
>      >
>      >
>      >        BR
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >          Att,
>      >          Marcelo Saldanha
>      >            Instituto Bem Estar Brasil
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >          -------- Mensagem original --------
>      >          De: Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
>      >          Data: 23/09/19 18:49 (GMT-03:00)
>      >          Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>      >            <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >          Assunto: Re: [DC3] ITU Public Consultation about CNs
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >          Hi All –
>      >
>      >          Do we know
>      >              what the result was from the ITU Council CWG Internet?
>      >          I am hearing
>      >              that CNs are on the agenda for comment from
>      >              February-September?
>      >
>      >          Jane
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >              Internet Society |
>      >                  www.internetsociety.org
>      >
>      >
>      >              Skype:  janercoffin
>      >
>      >
>      >          Mobile/WhatsApp:
>      >               +1.202.247.8429
>      >
>      >
>      >            From: <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >                on behalf of Carlos <carlos@apc.org>
>      >                Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community
>      >                Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >                Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:36 PM
>      >                To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>      >                <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
>      >                Subject: Re: [DC3] ITU Public Consultation about
>      >                CNs
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >          Hi Marcelo, thank you very much for flagging this and sharing
>      >            the text, very interesting data inside it.
>      >          In the past CWG-Internet in February, both Canada and the UK
>      >            proposed also community networks as a topic for discussion.
>      >            You can find all the contributions here: https://www.itu.int/md/S19-RCLINTPOL12-C/en.
>      >            The countries who opposed community networks at the plenipot
>      >            also blocked this from happening at the CWG other delegations
>      >          With a strong country from the Global South like Brazil
>      >            submitting it, this time the result may be different. Let's
>      >            follow up the result.
>      >          best,
>      >          carlos
>      >
>      >
>      >            On 2019/09/05 18:58, Instituto Bem Estar
>      >              Brasil wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      >            Dear fellows I am writing here to ask for
>      >              all of u to pay attention about the public calls that the
>      >              agencies are doing in the member states to make suggestions
>      >              to the public consultation of ITU about CNs
>      >
>      >              I will share the doc with some suggestions, that the folks
>      >              of ISOC-BR and Luca helped to make it better :-) in the last
>      >              draft of Anatel.
>      >
>      >              PS.: Remebering that this doc is it in the context of the
>      >              brazilian contributions
>      >
>      >              BR
>      >
>      >              Marcelo Saldanha
>      >              IBEBrasil
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >            _______________________________________________
>      >            DC3 mailing list
>      >            DC3@listas.altermundi.net
>      >            https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
>      >
>      >          --
>      >          Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD
>      >          Local Access Policy and Regulation Coordinator
>      >          Association for Progressive Communications
>      >          https://www.apc.org/en/project/connecting-unconnected-supporting-community-networks-and-other-community-based-connectivity
>      >          Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
>      >          Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >        _______________________________________________
>      > DC3 mailing list
>      > DC3@listas.altermundi.net
>      > https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      _______________________________________________
>      DC3 mailing list
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>     
>
>
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