So... let's start working on a pad towards a declaration text?

I've copied texts that have already been mentioned here:

https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration


I also added AlterMundi's definitions.

We differentiate Free Network from Community Network with the goal of
targeting a bigger audience. A small commercial ISP could easily adhere
to the Free Network principles, while they could not be considered
Community Networks.

Maybe we can work a bit on ideas on this pad and then have an online
audio-conference at some point to share thoughts?


Cheers!
Nico

On 09/08/2016 03:00 PM, Steve Song wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Speaking personally, I favour a bold statement.  Good practices are
> important but a declaration (I chose the word deliberately) is about
> something you believe in and are prepared to take a stand on.  Here is a
> statement that Peter Bloom and I came up with last year:
>
> -----
> Up to 3 billion people in the world do not have access to communication
> infrastructure, and people in rural areas are unlikely to realize the
> benefits of access in the near term. There is no business case for
> extending coverage based on the current operational models of
> traditional network operators, and alternative strategies typically face
> nearly insurmountable regulatory hurdles. The access playing field has
> opened somewhat as Internet giants have entered the mix with
> infrastructure projects. But this raises further concerns about
> consolidation and neutrality. In order to reverse these trends and
> reclaim the role of the commons in networks, it is necessary to create
> the technology, policy and regulatory frameworks that empower
> communities and local entrepreneurs to solve their own connectivity
> challenges. Bottom-up strategies that embrace neutrality and diversity
> in the last mile will allow everyone to to play a role in bringing down
> costs and ensuring access.
> -----
>
> We called it Last Mile DNA (Diversity and Neutrality of Access).  I
> recognise that there are many issues related to access and I am not
> claiming this is the most important one but it does happen to be the one
> that I am prepared to nail my colours to the mast for.
>
> Cheers... Steve
>
>
>
>
> On 8 September 2016 at 09:00, Instituto Bem Estar Brasil
> <instituto@bemestarbrasil.org.br

> <mailto:instituto@bemestarbrasil.org.br>> wrote:
>
>     I go with Bob, we need to differ the access from infrastructure when
>     we talk
>     about declarations, because I heard some speeches about lifeline and
>     subvention the access through de telcos etc.  Even here in Brazil
>     there are
>     talks about "bolsa internet" and this not empower the people, just
>     replicate
>     the message that we need to consume information from the market.  An
>     idea in
>     the middle is to create means to create community infrastructure
>     where the
>     government can use it and share the costs with the community
>     provider and
>     this idea is about to create laws to digital cities and digital policies
>     with democratic governance and sustainability through councils with
>     liquid
>     democracy methodology and a public fund for example.
>
>
>     Atenciosamente,
>     ________________________________
>     Marcelo Saldanha
>     Movimento de Espectro Livre / Movimento de Redes Livres
>     Cel/Telgram/Whatsapp: 22-98842.0482
>     Skype : marcelo_secante
>     ________________________________
>     No campo das ideias, o limite é sonhar o impossível e no campo das
>     realizações, basta perseverar.
>
>
>
>
>     -----Mensagem original-----
>     De: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>

>     [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>] Em nome de dc3@bob.ma
>     <mailto:dc3@bob.ma>
>     Enviada em: quarta-feira, 7 de setembro de 2016 18:51
>     Para: 'Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity'
>     Assunto: Re: [DC3] RES: Elaboration of a Declaration of Principles
>     and Good
>     Practices on Community Connectivity
>
>     It helps to have written songs for the Grateful Dead ...
>
>     If we do declarations I strongly urge separating a declaration about
>     connectivity as infrastructure from the more aspirational goals of
>     "access".
>     This separation has been the key to the success of the Internet by
>     decoupling the technology from the applications.
>
>     My focus is on the enabling/empowering infrastructure. The is a shift to
>     paying for the common infrastructure as a community. For profit is
>     fine. The
>     problem is that today's profit is made by having a third party taxing
>     speech. By paying for infrastructure as a community we align the
>     incentives.
>     We need to be wary about too much emphasis on examples of volunteers to
>     avoid false dichotomies of public/private and us/them. Perhaps something
>     that JPB can endorse.
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
>     [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>] On Behalf Of Luca Belli
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 17:38
>     To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>     <dc3@listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>
>     Subject: [DC3] RES: Elaboration of a Declaration of Principles and Good
>     Practices on Community Connectivity
>
>     I wholeheartedly agree with C.A.
>     Best
>     ________________________________________
>     De: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
>     [dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>] em
>     nome de Carlos Afonso [ca@cafonso.ca <mailto:ca@cafonso.ca>]
>     Enviado: quarta-feira, 7 de setembro de 2016 1:03
>     Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>     Assunto: Re: [DC3] Elaboration of a Declaration of Principles and Good
>     Practices on Community Connectivity
>
>     Why, John Perry Barlow could do one, why couldn't we? :-)
>
>     []s fraternos
>
>     --c.a.
>
>     On 06/09/2016 15:18, Jane Coffin wrote:
>     > Hi All –
>     >
>     > I think we should definitely issue a document related to Community
>     connectivity.
>     >
>     > One question for food for thought – if we call our output a
>     > declaration we
>     trigger lots of UN-related intricacies that some folks (governments in
>     particular) may find challenging.
>     >
>     > Could we find another word?  I would hate to have people oppose what
>     > we
>     are doing.
>     >
>     > Best,
>     > Jane
>     >
>     >
>     > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>     <http://www.internetsociety.org>
>     > Skype:  janercoffin
>     > Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429 <tel:%2B1.202.247.8429>
>     >
>     > From: <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>     <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>> on behalf of Luca Belli
>     > <luca.belli@fgv.br <mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br>>
>     > Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>     > <dc3@listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>
>     > Date: Monday, September 5, 2016 at 6:16 PM
>     > To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>     > <dc3@listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>
>     > Subject: [DC3] Elaboration of a Declaration of Principles and Good
>     > Practices on Community Connectivity
>     >
>     > Dear all,
>     >
>     > Over the past weeks, many list members have supported the elaboration
>     > of a
>     declaration of principles and good practices on community
>     connectivity to be
>     presented at the IGF.
>     > So far, we have had some very good ideas coming up. Particularly, we
>     > may start drafting a “Guadalajara Declaration” (proposed by Steve)
>     > building on the excellent material circulated by Leandro (FONN
>     > principles https://guifi.net/en/FONNC ) and Jane (RFC 7962
>     > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7962.txt
>     <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7962.txt>)
>     >
>     > I would be very happy to facilitate the elaboration of an initial
>     > draft to
>     circulate for comments.  The goal of the draft would be to (i)
>     elaborate a
>     common definition of connectivity as well as of community network
>     (ii) and
>     identifying shared principles and good practices that facilitate the
>     deployment of community networks.
>     > Is anyone interested in helping me facilitating the drafting process
>     (meaning elaborating a first draft that will be shared for comments and
>     consolidating the comments we will receive)?
>     >
>     > As mentioned previously, we could elaborate the draft declaration over
>     > the
>     next two months and finalise it at our IGF pre-event, on 5 December, and
>     lastly submit it to the assessment of the IGF community during the IGF.
>     > What do you think?
>     >
>     > Best
>     > Luca
>     >
>     > [GV Direito Rio]

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