Hi, I also like and support the idea. Having working definitions, principles, etc regarding CN, local networking infrastructures, connectivity ... requires detailed understanding and discussion. One great opportunity would be in the peer review of the papers sent to the recent call for papers from Luca.

Some of us in guifi.net "believe" that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-pool_resource is a key concept to understand community network infrastructures, with principles that can adapt to many diverse local implementations (in terms of participation, business model, even in tech). The ideas come from the work of E. Ostrom and the experience of guifi.net. She beautifully defined a set of principles (more in http://people.ac.upc.edu/leandro/pubs/crowds-guifi-en.pdf)

In our specific guifi.net case, so diverse that can be better understood as a federation of local CN (an inter-net in a sense), the community license translates the fundamental principles of access and participation into a working set of "freedoms" (https://guifi.net/en/FONNC) that are related to other natural or constructed commons, such as FOSS licenses.

As Luca mentions about our recent workshop in June 17: there we discussed about organization/governance, regulation, implementation. Participants were diverse, including different governmental levels, regulators, professionals, members of diverse CN (multi-stakeholder :-). Among others, we were inspired by the discussions we had in the Go-Local! workshop and the GAIA meetings. Building on all that would help.

As said, the review of these submissions can give us details and ideas to discuss. We can elaborate them in the coming months, and prepare a f2f workshop to develop a common understanding. The ultimate goal of summarizing ideas/principles/recommendations into a representative and inspiring document can help us to focus.

In addition, having a workshop day focused on the topic + related activities in the same location and days gives stronger reasons to travel there.

Leandro.
P.S: Still quite silent during August due to vacation offline therapy ;-)

On 16/8/16 19:13, Luca Belli wrote:

Hi Steve and all,

 

I like and support wholeheartedly your proposal to have a declaration setting “conditions” for CN to thrive. I suggest starting with the definition of a set of “principles” rather than “conditions”.

In early July, I proposed to develop some principles and definitions that we could present as DC3-outcomes at the IGF.  Here is the basic plan https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/DC3_definitions

 

Steve, would you have time to help preparing a Draft 0 that can be circulated for comments?

I know netCommons friends had a very productive workshop, from which some excellent ideas emerged http://netcommons.eu/?q=content/workshop-community-networking-infrastructures

Perhaps they can also be interested in helping sketching an early version of the principles?

 

We have 4 months until the IGF and I think it is enough to elaborate (at least) a set of principles.

What do you think?

Best

Luca

 

 

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De: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de Steve Song
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 15 de agosto de 2016 09:19
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
Cc: Ermanno Pietrosemoli <ermanno@gmail.com>; Marco Zennaro <mzennaro@ictp.it>
Assunto: [DC3] Fwd: RES: IGF workshop proposal accepted!!!!

 

Full day workshop sounds like a great idea.  

 

One of the things we talked about at the Go Local! event was the possibility of coming up with a set of model conditions for local telco initiatives to thrive.  This might range from Open Access policies around fibre backbones to reduced importation taxes on unlicensed equipment to license fees that favour small and/or non-profit organisations engaged in connectivity.

 

One possibility would be to come up with a set of principles / recommendations / conditions necessary to the growth of "local telco" initiatives, both community and for-profit and build some momentum around the idea/declaration.  In the past advocates for change have used a "declaration" to move an agenda forward.  For Open Access academic publishing, a diverse set of actors developed a set of principles known as the Budapest Open Access Initiative (http://www.budapestopenaccessinitiative.org/) to make common cause around access to scholarly materials and similarly groups involved in Open Education came up with the Cape Town Declaration on Open Education (http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/).  There are others.  The point is that the "declaration" allowed a number of disparate groups to make common cause on an issue and became a rallying banner.  

 

Perhaps we might come up with a Guadalajara Declaration on local telcos or last mile diversity or bottom-up networks or, or, or.  It would take a lot of work prior to the event to build consensus but might be worth doing.

 

Thoughts?

 

Regards... Steve

 

On 11 August 2016 at 14:53, Raoul Plommer <plommer@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds good and hopefully I can make it! :)

-Raoul

 

On 11 August 2016 at 20:06, Luca Belli <luca.belli@fgv.br> wrote:

Hi Carlos and all,

 

A couple of days ago, I had an off-list conversation with Jane and Mike and we thought about proposing an IGF pre-event on the afternoon of 5 December and follow-up with APC Disco-Tech https://www.apc.org/en/news/highlights-2013-disco-tech   

What do you and other list-member think?

 

All the best

Luca

 

De: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de Carlos Rey-Moreno
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2016 11:38
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
Cc: ermanno@gmail.com; Steve Song <stevesong@nsrc.org>; Marco Zennaro <mzennaro@ictp.it>
Assunto: Re: [DC3] IGF workshop proposal accepted!!!!

 

Hi Jane et al,

I think your idea is great. I had the chance to participate in a similar event organized by Steve and Peter in 2014 around ACMDev and GAIA in Berkeley (http://decentralizethis.org/Go_Local!_Workshop) and the energy and knowledge I gathered at that event is still with me. If I can choose I would prefer the event to be before IGF.


By the way, these are the videos from CNs in Africa that I know about, maybe you can add them to your list:
- The BBC dedicated one of their Click Programs to one of the most important Community Netowrks in Africa: Macha Works, in Macha, Zambia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei4Inh3W03M
- Video about Tunapandanet, a mesh network in Kibera, Kenya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKcdLC48fzo

- We have also created a documentary about Zenzeleni Networks, the CN I'm personally involved in, located in Mankosi, South Africa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M

All the best,

calros

 

On 2 August 2016 at 19:00, Nicolás Echániz <nicoechaniz@altermundi.net> wrote:

On 07/29/2016 11:37 AM, Jane Coffin wrote:
> Given the amazing energy around this great workshop, and that so many
> people may be in one place.
>
>
>
> I wondered – should we take advantage of all of the great people coming
> to Guadalajara and hold a day-long Community Networking event?

Hi all,

I believe it is a good idea to have day-long roundtable meetings
(similar to what we had in Bogotá a few months ago). But I would propose
that we consider a more detailed agenda that considers what we have been
doing and the plans that are already in place so we can focus on moving
forward.

During the Bogotá meeting we proposed to use the Wiki to keep track of
projects and initiatives and I did this only partially:

http://dc3.libre.social


BTW, Ernmanno and Marco, you are more than welcome to join the DC3
mailing list!


https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3


Cheers,
Nico

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