Related to CN’s and Free or Low Cost WiFi, the various approaches in India by Goog, MSFT and FB are interesting. Google, as you point out is installing WiFi on rail line fiber. Good for many, very many travelers.

FB’s free service hasn’t faired as well since it more or less followed the AOL model of walled garden.

Microsoft’s depends on use of TVWS for distribution from fiber end points/interconnect points at regional gov’t offices. Then for TVWS as backhaul to extend into an unbelievable number of villages as WiFi clusters <https://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/microsoft-to-bring-low-cost-broadband-to-half-a-million-villages-in-india-745424> This is still pending gov’t spectrum approvals.

Regards, Don Means GigLibraries.Net On Jun 22, 2018, at 12:11 PM, dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net wrote: Send DC3 mailing list submissions to dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net You can reach the person managing the list at dc3-owner(a)listas.altermundi.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DC3 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 (Luca Belli) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 19:11:53 +0000 From: Luca Belli &lt;luca.belli(a)fgv.br&gt; To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; Subject: [DC3] RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 Message-ID: &lt;4B6296ABAE1FC944984F6C9FE996FE19016B296A9D(a)DC6010.fgv.br&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Bob and Peter. Just to clarify. Obviously I was NOT suggesting that Free WiFi and CNs are the same ting... That is precisely the resaon why I was suggesting to ? potentially ? include a representative from Google India in part 3 of the session, dedicated to exploring potential interactions/partnerships with different stakeholders To be even more explicit, what I had in my mind was the posibility to consider Google Free WiFi (or other free wifi initiatives) as a potential source of connectivity for CNs? De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de dc3(a)bob.ma Enviada em: sexta-feira, 22 de junho de 2018 09:23 Para: 'Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity ' < dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; Assunto: Re: [DC3] DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 I see it as not so much free vs. community as whether there is a sustainable model rather than one dependent upon a benevolent donor. A donor can play a role in establishing in idea if there is a path towards communities funding their connectivity be the community very local or national. The other issue is whether there is spotty coverage or a path for assuming what I?m calling Ambient Connectivity everywhere. Finally is this infrastructure or does one have to login which is what I call web-fi and not full connectivity. From: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net&lt;mailtolto: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; &lt;dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>> On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 08:11 To: dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>; dc3-request@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-request@listas.altermundi.net Subject: Re: [DC3] DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 Hard no on google. Free wifi and community networks are not the same thing On June 22, 2018 2:49:38 AM CDT, dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net&lt;mailtolto: dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; wrote: Send DC3 mailing list submissions to dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net&lt;mailtolto: dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; You can reach the person managing the list at dc3-owner(a)listas.altermundi.net&lt;mailtolto: dc3-owner(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DC3 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Planning the DC3 Session (Luca Belli) 2. Re: Planning the DC3 Session (Jane Coffin) ________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:18:53 +0000 From: Luca Belli <luca.belli@fgv.br<mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br>> To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>> Cc: "donna_scheeder@comcast.net<mailto:donna_scheeder@comcast.net>" < donna_scheeder@comcast.net<mailto:donna_scheeder@comcast.net>> Subject: [DC3] Planning the DC3 Session Message-ID: &lt;4B6296ABAE1FC944984F6C9FE996FE19016B295747(a)DC6010.fgv.br <mailto:4B6296ABAE1FC944984F6C9FE996FE19016B295747@DC6010.fgv.br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, A further issue we should start discussing is the planning of the DC3 session. As DC3 has continuously produced outputs, we have a session slot by default but we should send a draft session proposal by 29 June. As discussed at Rightscon< http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_download/4391…gt;, the DC3 session could have a threefold structure featuring the following parts: 1. presentation of (at least some of) the initiatives featured in the 2018 DC3 Report (that should be the "CN Manual" mentioned in my previous email) 2. discussion with people in their early phase of CN development to understand the challenges they are facing 3. discussion with potential partners FYI, the 90 minutes time slot has been reestablished (thanks to all those who commented during the IGF stocktaking consultation requesting restauration of the 90 min slot!!). The session should be as much as possible, multistakeholder, gender balanced and geographically diverse. I propose to have up to 3 speakers in part 1; 2 for part 2; and 2 (or maybe 3) in part 3. The speakers for part 1 will be chosen amongst the contributors of the CN Manual. If anyone is already sure to submit a contribution for the CN manual, please send a message (on-list or a PM) so that I can include your name in the DRAFT session description. As regards part 2, Nico Pace offered to help liaise with people currently developing CNs and facing challenges. Nico can you suggest some names? As regards part 3, I was thinking that IFLA could be good (I am CCing Donna) and perhaps one Intergovernmental org that is dealing with CNs e.g. CITEL or African Union. Lastly, after having read what Google India is doing, providing Free WiFi at Indian train stations, I have started wondering if it could also be a potential partner to be included in the discussion https://qz.com/1300522/googles-free-wifi-at-railway-stations-is-a-way-of-li… What do you think? 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