1 Aug
2017
1 Aug
'17
5:37 p.m.
Raising up to the challenge, I completed load balancing configuration on
the master router in Prosfygika. So, now the configuration is as follows:
We have a bunch of subrouters, running the tree topology LAN (I hope to
convert it into a ring at least), all hooked up to the LAN port of
TP-Link WDR 4310 master router, donated and configured by Gui
(configuration later spoiled by yours truly).
On the WAN side, we have two ISP-delivered routers, lovely pulling the
weight in 50/50 policy via mwan3 load balance.
Next challenge now is to set up a voucher system -- enter Pitbull -- to
control freeriding. The plan is to give users unlimited access to
internally hosted resources (soon to be: OwnCloud, messaging servers and
such), but limit access to external gateways to those who has active
vouchers.
I downoladed zip from github, read the readme and it seems that it may
work (nodogsplash provided). Or did I miss something?
Also, is there any text I could read, explaining the whole logic of this
system? I have some idea in my mind, but not sure if this is the same
idea you guys had.
This area is totally uncharted for me so I wish to ask a lot first and
then proceed.
Best,
Petros
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3 Aug
3 Aug
9:53 a.m.
Hi Petros,
Right now PitBull is not available for general use... it is close to be
an MVP of something that we want to have.
It doesn't use NoDogSplash, just it's own way of dealing with traffic.
For now I suggest not to use it... till it gets announced properly :)
Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the understanding,
On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 20:37 +0300, Freelab wrote:
Raising up to the challenge, I completed load
balancing configuration
on the master router in Prosfygika. So, now the configuration is as
follows:
We have a bunch of subrouters, running the tree topology LAN (I hope
to convert it into a ring at least), all hooked up to the LAN port of
TP-Link WDR 4310 master router, donated and configured by Gui
(configuration later spoiled by yours truly).
On the WAN side, we have two ISP-delivered routers, lovely pulling
the weight in 50/50 policy via mwan3 load balance.
Next challenge now is to set up a voucher system -- enter Pitbull --
to control freeriding. The plan is to give users unlimited access to
internally hosted resources (soon to be: OwnCloud, messaging servers
and such), but limit access to external gateways to those who has
active vouchers.
I downoladed zip from github, read the readme and it seems that it
may work (nodogsplash provided). Or did I miss something?
Also, is there any text I could read, explaining the whole logic of
this system? I have some idea in my mind, but not sure if this is the
same idea you guys had.
This area is totally uncharted for me so I wish to ask a lot first
and then proceed.
Best,
Petros
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3:48 p.m.
Hi Nicolas,
Thanks for your answer. It creates two more questions, though:
1. Can you recommend any functionally equivalent solution for the time
being?
2. Do you have any expectations when PitBull could be available?
Best,
P.
On 03/08/2017 12:53 μμ, Nicolas Pace wrote:
Hi Petros,
Right now PitBull is not available for general use... it is close to be
an MVP of something that we want to have.
It doesn't use NoDogSplash, just it's own way of dealing with traffic.
For now I suggest not to use it... till it gets announced properly :)
Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the understanding,
On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 20:37 +0300, Freelab wrote:
> Raising up to the challenge, I completed load balancing configuration
> on the master router in Prosfygika. So, now the configuration is as
> follows:
> We have a bunch of subrouters, running the tree topology LAN (I hope
> to convert it into a ring at least), all hooked up to the LAN port of
> TP-Link WDR 4310 master router, donated and configured by Gui
> (configuration later spoiled by yours truly).
> On the WAN side, we have two ISP-delivered routers, lovely pulling
> the weight in 50/50 policy via mwan3 load balance.
> Next challenge now is to set up a voucher system -- enter Pitbull --
> to control freeriding. The plan is to give users unlimited access to
> internally hosted resources (soon to be: OwnCloud, messaging servers
> and such), but limit access to external gateways to those who has
> active vouchers.
> I downoladed zip from github, read the readme and it seems that it
> may work (nodogsplash provided). Or did I miss something?
> Also, is there any text I could read, explaining the whole logic of
> this system? I have some idea in my mind, but not sure if this is the
> same idea you guys had.
> This area is totally uncharted for me so I wish to ask a lot first
> and then proceed.
> Best,
> Petros
> --
> Freelab: Researching freedom since 2012
> Get my new public key!
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3:52 p.m.
On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 18:48 +0300, Freelab wrote:
Hi Nicolas,
Thanks for your answer. It creates two more questions, though:
1. Can you recommend any functionally equivalent solution for the
time being?
None that I know of.
there might be a way using nodogsplash and a radius server, but never
tried.
2. Do you have any expectations when PitBull could be
available?
End of the year maybe? don't know, sorry :(
Best,
P.
On 03/08/2017 12:53 μμ, Nicolas Pace wrote:
Hi Petros,
Right now PitBull is not available for general use... it is close
to be
an MVP of something that we want to have.
It doesn't use NoDogSplash, just it's own way of dealing with
traffic.
For now I suggest not to use it... till it gets announced properly
:)
Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the understanding,
On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 20:37 +0300, Freelab wrote:
> Raising up to the challenge, I completed load balancing
> configuration
> on the master router in Prosfygika. So, now the configuration is
> as
> follows:
> We have a bunch of subrouters, running the tree topology LAN (I
> hope
> to convert it into a ring at least), all hooked up to the LAN
> port of
> TP-Link WDR 4310 master router, donated and configured by Gui
> (configuration later spoiled by yours truly).
> On the WAN side, we have two ISP-delivered routers, lovely
> pulling
> the weight in 50/50 policy via mwan3 load balance.
> Next challenge now is to set up a voucher system -- enter Pitbull
> --
> to control freeriding. The plan is to give users unlimited access
> to
> internally hosted resources (soon to be: OwnCloud, messaging
> servers
> and such), but limit access to external gateways to those who has
> active vouchers.
> I downoladed zip from github, read the readme and it seems that
> it
> may work (nodogsplash provided). Or did I miss something?
> Also, is there any text I could read, explaining the whole logic
> of
> this system? I have some idea in my mind, but not sure if this is
> the
> same idea you guys had.
> This area is totally uncharted for me so I wish to ask a lot
> first
> and then proceed.
> Best,
> Petros
> --
> Freelab: Researching freedom since 2012
> Get my new public key!
> _______________________________________________
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>
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5 Aug
5 Aug
2:59 p.m.
Hi Petros, Nicolas,
I guess it depends on how you define your needs. There are a few things
that might be worth taking a quick look at.
Daloradius (http://www.daloradius.com/) is a full-featured billing system
that is Open Source and supports both voucher and post-paid billing
options. It has a captive portal.
Freeside (http://freeside.biz/freeside/) is a full ISP management system
that supports voucher and captive portal among many other features.
RadiusDesk (https://sourceforge.net/projects/radiusdesk/) is Open Source
and has billing/captive portal features
None of the above will run on a WiFi AP but are designed as a gateway
server software that would need probably something like an Intel NUC or
similar to run.
There is also PfSense (https://www.pfsense.org/), and a host of similar
software, that are network gateway/security solutions designed to run on
small memory/cpu footprint devices that also includes a captive portal but
no voucher systems.
Cheers... Steve Song
On 3 August 2017 at 12:52, Nicolas Pace <nico(a)libre.ws> wrote:
On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 18:48 +0300, Freelab wrote:
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Hi Nicolas,
Thanks for your answer. It creates two more questions, though:
1. Can you recommend any functionally equivalent solution for the
time being?
None that I know of.
there might be a way using nodogsplash and a radius server, but never
tried.
2. Do you have any expectations when PitBull
could be available?
End of the year maybe? don't know, sorry :(
Best,
P.
On 03/08/2017 12:53 μμ, Nicolas Pace wrote:
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Hi Petros,
Right now PitBull is not available for general use... it is close
to be
an MVP of something that we want to have.
It doesn't use NoDogSplash, just it's own way of dealing with
traffic.
For now I suggest not to use it... till it gets announced properly
:)
Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the understanding,
On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 20:37 +0300, Freelab wrote:
> Raising up to the challenge, I completed load balancing
> configuration
> on the master router in Prosfygika. So, now the configuration is
> as
> follows:
> We have a bunch of subrouters, running the tree topology LAN (I
> hope
> to convert it into a ring at least), all hooked up to the LAN
> port of
> TP-Link WDR 4310 master router, donated and configured by Gui
> (configuration later spoiled by yours truly).
> On the WAN side, we have two ISP-delivered routers, lovely
> pulling
> the weight in 50/50 policy via mwan3 load balance.
> Next challenge now is to set up a voucher system -- enter Pitbull
> --
> to control freeriding. The plan is to give users unlimited access
> to
> internally hosted resources (soon to be: OwnCloud, messaging
> servers
> and such), but limit access to external gateways to those who has
> active vouchers.
> I downoladed zip from github, read the readme and it seems that
> it
> may work (nodogsplash provided). Or did I miss something?
> Also, is there any text I could read, explaining the whole logic
> of
> this system? I have some idea in my mind, but not sure if this is
> the
> same idea you guys had.
> This area is totally uncharted for me so I wish to ask a lot
> first
> and then proceed.
> Best,
> Petros
> --
> Freelab: Researching freedom since 2012
> Get my new public key!
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5:07 p.m.
Steve, thanks for the list.
It seems that the freeside is the best, as it can also provide a lot of
other functionalities I will have to run soon.
However, I had an attack of panic, seeing how much I have to learn just
to execute (with comprehension) installation instructions I saw in their
wiki. It will take me three days just to get the logic of it.
Ah, well. Not the first time in my life.
Anybody here would be holding my hand during the first installation?
P.
On 05/08/2017 05:59 μμ, Steve Song wrote:
Hi Petros, Nicolas,
I guess it depends on how you define your needs. There are a few
things that might be worth taking a quick look at.
Daloradius (http://www.daloradius.com/) is a full-featured billing
system that is Open Source and supports both voucher and post-paid
billing options. It has a captive portal.
Freeside (http://freeside.biz/freeside/) is a full ISP management
system that supports voucher and captive portal among many other
features.
RadiusDesk (https://sourceforge.net/projects/radiusdesk/) is Open
Source and has billing/captive portal features
None of the above will run on a WiFi AP but are designed as a gateway
server software that would need probably something like an Intel NUC
or similar to run.
There is also PfSense (https://www.pfsense.org/), and a host of
similar software, that are network gateway/security solutions designed
to run on small memory/cpu footprint devices that also includes a
captive portal but no voucher systems.
Cheers... Steve Song
On 3 August 2017 at 12:52, Nicolas Pace <nico(a)libre.ws
<mailto:nico@libre.ws>> wrote:
On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 18:48 +0300, Freelab wrote:
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Hi Nicolas,
Thanks for your answer. It creates two more questions, though:
1. Can you recommend any functionally equivalent solution for the
time being?
None that I know of.
there might be a way using nodogsplash and a radius server, but never
tried.
2. Do you have any expectations when PitBull
could be available?
End of the year maybe? don't know, sorry :(
Best,
P.
On 03/08/2017 12:53 μμ, Nicolas Pace wrote:
> Hi Petros,
>
> Right now PitBull is not available for general use... it is close
> to be
> an MVP of something that we want to have.
> It doesn't use NoDogSplash, just it's own way of dealing with
> traffic.
> For now I suggest not to use it... till it gets announced properly
> :)
>
> Sorry for the delay, and thanks for the understanding,
>
> On Tue, 2017-08-01 at 20:37 +0300, Freelab wrote:
> > Raising up to the challenge, I completed load balancing
> > configuration
> > on the master router in Prosfygika. So, now the configuration is
> > as
> > follows:
> > We have a bunch of subrouters, running the tree topology LAN (I
> > hope
> > to convert it into a ring at least), all hooked up to the LAN
> > port of
> > TP-Link WDR 4310 master router, donated and configured by Gui
> > (configuration later spoiled by yours truly).
> > On the WAN side, we have two ISP-delivered routers, lovely
> > pulling
> > the weight in 50/50 policy via mwan3 load balance.
> > Next challenge now is to set up a voucher system -- enter
Pitbull
> > --
> > to control freeriding. The plan is to give users unlimited
access
> > to
> > internally hosted resources (soon to be: OwnCloud, messaging
> > servers
> > and such), but limit access to external gateways to those
who has
> > active vouchers.
> > I downoladed zip from github, read the readme and it seems that
> > it
> > may work (nodogsplash provided). Or did I miss something?
> > Also, is there any text I could read, explaining the whole logic
> > of
> > this system? I have some idea in my mind, but not sure if
this is
> > the
> > same idea you guys had.
> > This area is totally uncharted for me so I wish to ask a lot
> > first
> > and then proceed.
> > Best,
> > Petros
> > --
> > Freelab: Researching freedom since 2012
> > Get my new public key!
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