I don't know anything about fragmentation of networks.
What I said is that this old routers maybe are not a good option to run the nodes and conform the mesh, but still you can use them like APs to give 2.4 GHz service inside the home. I am not sure but I think you can use OpenWRT/Lede for them and LiMe too.
Good luck :-)

30 de mayo de 2018 13:53, "bruno vianna" <bruno@pobox.com> escribió:
do you mean running a non-mesh firmware and starting a new network with dhcp etc?
yes, it makes sense, although we just had a discussion on the fragmentation of networks and how to avoid it :)
in any case, which firmware would you run on them?
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:38 AM, <modante@disroot.org> wrote:

I think that Gio means that is not very useful like nodes in a mesh cause the bandwidths are quite poor.
But of course that you should use them if you have them. Probably like routers connected to the nodes by ethernet to give service like 2.4GHz AP for the clients inside the house are a great choice, leaving the routers of the nodes to run only the mesh. Doesn't it?
Regards :-)


26 de mayo de 2018 7:10, "Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org> escribió:

> Hi Bruno,
> Hi Gio,
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 11:41:00AM +0200, Gio wrote:
>
>> I would rather avoid spending time with that very old hardware that has very
>> bad performances compared to current solutions
>
> True, but if I had a few dozends of them in a box, why not do something
> useful with them...
>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> On Friday, 25 May 2018 20:33:26 CEST bruno vianna wrote:
>> hello
>>
>> This list a bit quiet, so here is a question for the experts: how difficult
>> it is to port libremesh to the wrt54g? I see there is a openwrt version,
>> but no libremesh. The chipset is not in the target list.
>
> It's a brcm47xx/legacy device which originally came with 4MB NOR flash
> and 32MB SDRAM. In later versions of the WRT54G the SDRAM was reduced
> to 16MB which really makes it pretty useful nowadays. However, Linksys
> then realized that an unexpected marked for those boxes has developed
> and made another 32MB SDRAM version of it called WRT54GL.
>
> If you got the 32MB version, the hardware is not that bad:
> * 120MHz BMIPS32 CPU
> * 802.11bgn Broadcom b43xx WiFi
> * managed Fast-Ethernet "Roboswitch"
> * many LEDs and two Buttons
> * unpopulated USB1.1 port hidden somewhere
>
> So before you start, check exactly which devices you got. If you got
> them somehow from Freifunk, I reckon they are either old 'WRT54G' with
> 32MB of SDRAM or the 32MB re-issue 'WRT54GL'.
>
> I guess libremesh doesn't officially support those old brcm47xx devices
> because we only got the proprietary WiFi driver working well on those
> boxes, and that's not so useful for LibreMesh (no 802.11s and only a
> single virtual interface, ie. *either* Ad-Hoc for meshing *or* Access
> Point, but not both).
>
> You may clone lime-sdk and add the target/subtarget yourself, ie.
> ```
> git clone https://github.com/libremesh/lime-sdk.git
> cd lime-sdk
> # add the entry 'brcm47xx/legacy' to the list of supported targets
> echo "brcm47xx/legacy" >> targets.list
> # cook image for WRT54G
> ./cooker -c brcm47xx/legacy --flavor=lime_mini --profile=wrt54g
> ```
>
>> Boa Vista de Acará network, near Belem in northern Brazil, got 10 of these
>> routers from FreiFunk. I understand they used to run Tomato firmware in
>> them.
>
> Probably still not the worst thing to do with those -- if they run
> well on WhiteRussian (very old OpenWrt with Kernel 2.4) or Tomato, why
> not just use them for that?
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel
>
>> Thanks!
>> Bruno
>>
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