I've checked some dates now that the schedule is online: https://igf2016.sched.org/
So, these are the DC3-related activities during IGF 2016 in Guadalajara, Mexico
1) An IGF pre-event on the afternoon of 5 December (IGF Day 0)
2) Disco-Tech, on the evening of 5 December (last years’ programme https://www.apc.org/en/node/21284 )
3) DC on Community Connectivity, December 7, 12:00 - 13:30
featuring the authors of the papers included in the DC3 Report
https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8htn/dc-on-community-connectivity
4) WS238: Community Connectivity: empowering the unconnected. December 7, 15:00 - 16:30
https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8htE/ws238-community-connectivity-empowerin…https://www.intgovforum.org/cms/igf2016/index.php/proposal/view_public/238
5) Post-IGF event on community networking, on 10 December, 10:00 - 17:00. University of Guadalajara. Open to interested people.
I'd like us to plan a bit so we can make the most of all these sessions.
Activities 3 and 4 don't seem to need any further planning. Do they?
Disco-Tech needs to be coordinated among APC, DC3 and other interested parties. I'm not aware of any planification about this so far.
Regarding the pre and post evente, I believe we should have some time for a DC3 "internal meeting" that's not open to the general public but rather more of a round table like the one we had in Bogotá. Jane has told me the idea during the post-event is to make it open, so that would leave the pre-event for a more inner DC3 meeting. Or maybe we could plan to make part of the post-event dedicated to inner planning and discussion and another part open to the public?
The purpose of such inner meeting for me is to come together, have everyone update the group on what are the news, the ongoing activities and plans ahead.
For example, we have discussed previously about the importance of having a presence and some clear objectives for the 2017 World Telecommunication Development Conference (http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Conferences/WTDC/Pages/default.aspx) but so far we haven't discussed about this on the DC3 list. This to me is an important topic to discuss in person so we can maximize results.
This was proposed by Rhizomatica and most of us (present in Bogotá) agreed that it's important to push the Community Connectivity perspective there, considering results from that conference can have more binding outcomes than other events.
We have also talked about working on creating a global Community Networks database that we can keep updated over time. This was discussed a bit on the "Network Communities data" thread[1]. It was also brought up again by Conraad lately in the "Rural access success stories" thread[2]; with a different perspective.
My approach to this is to frame it in the lines of what PCC.I/RES.268 from CITEL's 2016 meeting in El Salvador[3] says:
"""
a) Documentation, systematization, sharing, and dissemination of results and experiences of national initiatives related to the implementation of Recommendation ITU-D 19 [4] as it pertains to the development of small nonprofit community operators that serve the communications needs of these (rural and remote) areas.
"""
I believe this would put the DC3 in a position of visibility in the American continent (CITEL) but also elsewhere, as a point of reference regarding the issues we address.
I guess we have many other important matters to discuss. I'd very much like the DC3 to be a proactive collective and not just a "community connectivity think tank"... YMMV :)
Sorry for the long e-mail... I've been wanting to propose this for quite some time but had no opportunity to write before.
Cheers,
Nico
[1] http://listas.altermundi.net/pipermail/dc3/2016-June/000208.html
[2] http://listas.altermundi.net/pipermail/dc3/2016-November/000370.html
[3] https://www.citel.oas.org/en/SiteAssets/PCCI/Final-Reports/CCPI-2016-28-400…
[3] (spanish) https://www.citel.oas.org/en/SiteAssets/PCCI/Final-Reports/CCPI-2016-28-400…
[4] http://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-d/rec/d/D-REC-D.19-201003-I!!PDF-E.pdf
Excellent! thank you Luca.
On Nov 30, 2016 01:56, "Luca Belli" <luca.belli(a)fgv.br> wrote:
Excellent Maureen!
You are confirmed then.
Thanks a lot for your help and see you next week!
Best
Luca
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em nome de Maureen Hernandez [hernandezgmaureenp(a)gmail.com]
*Enviado:* terça-feira, 29 de novembro de 2016 19:39
*Para:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
*Assunto:* Re: [DC3] Rapporteur for our workshop on Community Connectivity
Dear Luca, I think I was named the rapporteur on the initial draft, anyway
I can be the rapporteur!
Let me know if it's ok.
Warm regards,
Maureen Hernandez
On Nov 29, 2016 16:13, "Luca Belli" <luca.belli(a)fgv.br> wrote:
Hi all,
We need a rapporteur for our workshop “Community Connectivity: empowering
the unconnected.” https://igf2016.sched.org/even
t/8htE/ws238-community-connectivity-empowering-the-unconnected
The rapporteur should have some good drafting skills and is supposed to
take notes and draft a brief summary of the discussion.
The report should be delivered in the two weeks after the IGF. Hence the
rapporteur should prepare a draft with the main points discussed and the
main outcomes of the workshop, by 15 December.
Obviously, the rapporteur will be acknowledged at the beginning of report.
Let me know if anyone is interested.
All the best
Luca
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Dear Luca, I think I was named the rapporteur on the initial draft, anyway
I can be the rapporteur!
Let me know if it's ok.
Warm regards,
Maureen Hernandez
On Nov 29, 2016 16:13, "Luca Belli" <luca.belli(a)fgv.br> wrote:
Hi all,
We need a rapporteur for our workshop “Community Connectivity: empowering
the unconnected.” https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8htE/ws238-community-
connectivity-empowering-the-unconnected
The rapporteur should have some good drafting skills and is supposed to
take notes and draft a brief summary of the discussion.
The report should be delivered in the two weeks after the IGF. Hence the
rapporteur should prepare a draft with the main points discussed and the
main outcomes of the workshop, by 15 December.
Obviously, the rapporteur will be acknowledged at the beginning of report.
Let me know if anyone is interested.
All the best
Luca
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Hi all,
We need a rapporteur for our workshop "Community Connectivity: empowering the unconnected." https://igf2016.sched.org/event/8htE/ws238-community-connectivity-empowerin…
The rapporteur should have some good drafting skills and is supposed to take notes and draft a brief summary of the discussion.
The report should be delivered in the two weeks after the IGF. Hence the rapporteur should prepare a draft with the main points discussed and the main outcomes of the workshop, by 15 December.
Obviously, the rapporteur will be acknowledged at the beginning of report.
Let me know if anyone is interested.
All the best
Luca
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Senior Researcher
Head of Internet Governance @ FGV<http://internet-governance.fgv.br/> luca.belli(a)fgv.br
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http://rmf.vc/TEDx2016Video is a temporary link to the talk I gave at TEDx
this month. I tried a different approach to explaining connectivity in 13
minutes. I'm open to questions and suggestions about how I can better
explain it. This is the raw video - The TEDx people will be posting a more
polished version for wider sharing when they finish the post-production
work.
I plan to use some elements of the talk for my IGF presentation as I try to
explain that the Internet is not something far away but rather something
people create themselves and is as much for local connectivity as reaching
distant places. The main challenge is to get past the telecommunications
narrative that drives so much of today's policies and metrics. For example
the idea of accessing an Internet somewhere makes it seem like just another
long distance company. In fact, in the US you used to both choosing your
long distance carrier and your Internet provider in the same way. As I try
to explain the Internet has little to do with traditional telecommunications
except as just one more resource we can buy rather than running new wires.
The key is to moot the business model and the very idea that bits are
physical objects carried as precious cargo.
More later .
Bob Frankston
http://Frankston.com
@BobFrankston
During my participatin in the WEF meeting that I was invited to, I came
up with this concept that I believe must be a strong point in our
strugle forward in order to differentiate what we are doing from so many
other initiatives to "connect the unconnected":
Facebook's Free Basics and Internet planes, Google's Loon project as
well as many government plans to bring "Internet access" to public
spaces in poor villages and disadvantaged areas are all initiatives to
create an Internet for the Poor. One where the people get a second class
digital citizenship.
On the other hand, we from the community networks movement are
empowering the people to build meaningful infrastructures that create
the local portion of the Internet in a manner that is respectful of
human value and not just motivated by access statistics or profit.
I'd like to make this idea part of our Declaration.
What do the rest of you think?
cheers,
Nico
*How do we measure and avoid failure?*
1. Besides the handful of great projects that some of us are involved in
and has seen, we've all seen the failure:
a) regulation/government mandated "white elephant" computer labs and
satellite connections that mostly go unused, that big providers have
supplied to meet universal service license obligations
b) or those installed by mismanaged universal service funds
c) or those installed as "corporate social investment" schemes, for tax
incentives
d) or those installed purely for marketing - a "do good" story for some
photos and a presentation or two to score points with a government or
regulator
e) or those installed because they are what someone thought is needed
f) Large telco networks with services priced beyond the usablity of the
majority of the population covered
2. I'm sure there are many reasons -
a) No community consultation and buy-in
b) no co-creation
c) lack of skills
d) lack of access / guidance / materials / tangible benefits to community
e) lack of supporting infrastructure
f) lack of corporate incentive
g) ufavorable social environment - eg. unsafe, abused, misused
h) unprofitable (in the case of big telco network / extension thereof)
3. And then there are the potentials solutions:
a) Starting with community education / making the community request / ask
for it / earn it
b) establishing a long term relationship with the community
c) empowering the community to build- and maintain it themselves
d) ensuring utility by guiding the community to on-line solutions to their
everyday problems
- and a shared place where common problems and solutions can be listed
e) future tax incentives to corporates to make it worth as a long term
investment
These are just off the top of my head. Coudn't such a declaration reference
places to find common problems and solutions, and reference research on
failed programmes and the critical parts of successful implementations -
based on research that will be taken seriously.
4) Imagine we could create an atmosphere where it is not seen as insulting
to ask real questions at a presentation, or where it's not even necessary -
where it is common sense what questions should be answered. An environment
where no presentation that doesn't answer certain basic quetions, would
ever be taken seriously. Perhaps a list of questions that could and should
be answered in any presentation - or metrics that should be included, such
as:
a) Live data and contact people on the ground - How many people are
connected to it right now?
b) Let's do a video call to certain community members right now, and lets
see the network stats.
c) How long have they been connected?
d) How much has been spent on the network?
e) How was the hardware obtained?
f) Is vendor agnosticism promoted?
g) Ongoing costs - what does running the operation cost and where does the
funding come from?
h) How long before funding runs out / before it is self sustaining?
i) What is the life expectancy of the hardware and technology used?
j) Does any institution which stands to economically benefit from the
network, excercise control over training, initiation or landing page
materials?
k) Is any privileged network metrics available? Ie. if Google or Facebook
builds a network, even if they fund it - the data they collect should be in
the public domain, because measurable knowledge about our access patterns
is a public resource that if not made avaiable neutrally can benefit those
with access to it disproportionately and lead to growing inequity.
*Universal set of metrics?*
Shouldn't we perhaps aim toward seeing if there is a universal set of
metrics or measurable parameters, that if a adhered to, significantly
improves the probablity of success or the benefit to the community? Metrics
such as cost of access being under a certain percentage of the average
lowest income, or eqating to the cost of certain foodstuffs, or the lowest
tolerable contention ratio for certain applications, or the number of years
required for a community to be able to reap certain types of benefits - and
how these may differ form country to country or community type to community
type... how many usefully identifiable kinds of communities are there?
Rural, urban, rural agricultural, rural migratory, ...
Even though it may seem obvious what we want to achieve - perhaps it is
important to check to see if all items on our wishlists are universally
applicable. Ie.
How do we meaure success or failure? What's is the ultimate goal? More
responsible citizens? More communicative neigbourly citizens? Better
consumers? Better producers? More independence? More decentralization of
the market? More street wise citizenry? Happier taxpayers? More successufl
anarchists? A balance between a new global culture without it being at the
expense of local traditions? Whichever way, how do we know that everything
we are striving towards is unversally applicable to all these purposes?
Is connectivity ultimately purely in aid of a new supplementary global
identity for us all? Or is it simply an amplifier and multiplier - of both
good and bad things? And who are we to judge what is good and what is bad?
What is the smallest component of each, and at what point does it creep
into society - and isn't that the point where it is easiest to influence
it? And if it is, is someone smarter than us doing just that?
Think about how those who want to tell us what we should and shouldn't do
started out, and who gave them their say and power... and what authority
and incentive and purpose do they have doing what they are trying to?
Anyways, just all some ideas thought out loud that I hope will give someone
something to think about.
Coenraad Loubser
Wireless Internet Services & Hardware (Pty) Ltd.
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 4:06 AM, Nicolás Echániz <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net
> wrote:
> During my participatin in the WEF meeting that I was invited to, I came
> up with this concept that I believe must be a strong point in our
> strugle forward in order to differentiate what we are doing from so many
> other initiatives to "connect the unconnected":
>
> Facebook's Free Basics and Internet planes, Google's Loon project as
> well as many government plans to bring "Internet access" to public
> spaces in poor villages and disadvantaged areas are all initiatives to
> create an Internet for the Poor. One where the people get a second class
> digital citizenship.
>
> On the other hand, we from the community networks movement are
> empowering the people to build meaningful infrastructures that create
> the local portion of the Internet in a manner that is respectful of
> human value and not just motivated by access statistics or profit.
>
>
> I'd like to make this idea part of our Declaration.
>
>
> What do the rest of you think?
>
>
> cheers,
> Nico
>
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