Re: [DC3] RES: RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14

Could we bring them in via a video link so that their time is maximized and efficiently used, and there is no expense. Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org Skype: janercoffin Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429 *From: *&lt;dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; on behalf of Leandro Navarro < leandro(a)pangea.org&gt; *Reply-To: *Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity < dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; *Date: *Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:22 PM *To: *Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity < dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; *Subject: *Re: [DC3] RES: RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 I've learnt that professionals, individual or SMEs, tend to be too busy (not only due to the pressure of the work to do, and SLA commitments that do not let them to go too far, but also sometimes due to the pressure of the loans to return) and they don't see the positive balance in traveling and sharing their own experience. In addition, they are not comfortable with it. Therefore is too difficult to bring them to international events, even to local ones, unless these events are really focused into and have a clear impact in their business. We'll keep trying anyway. Cheers, Leandro. On 22/6/18 21:52, Nicolás Echániz wrote: Maybe people from the guifi.net ecosystem can fill the comercial stakeholder seat. Leandro, Roger, do you think people doing business within the network as a commons could be interested in participating? cheers, Nico ps: comercial doesn't mean it needs to be a big corporation. On June 22, 2018 4:36:53 PM GMT-03:00, Luca Belli &lt;luca.belli(a)fgv.br&gt; &lt;luca.belli(a)fgv.br&gt; wrote: Just another element of clarification As stated in my inicial email, the IGF Secretariat requests that the session should be multistakeholder. This means we should have at least one private-sector repressnetative and this is precisely why I thought about Google India. But that was a mere suggestion and the last thing I would like to do is raising any sensitivities J Another option to have a – potential partner – representing private sector would be Open Fiber, which is an Italian wholesale connectivity provider whose model is very intersting and very compatible with CNs development. They have no vertical integration with content and app and only provide wholesale bandwith to both urban and rural areas. Here an article to know more (unfortunately only in Italian but you can translate it with you favourite online translator J) https://assoprovider.it/perche-open-fiber-modello- wholesale-only-e-5g-sono-le-novita-dei-prossimi-anni/ *De:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas. altermundi.net &lt;dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt;] *Em nome de *Luca Belli *Enviada em:* sexta-feira, 22 de junho de 2018 16:12 *Para:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; *Assunto:* [DC3] RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 Hi Bob and Peter. Just to clarify. Obviously I was NOT suggesting that Free WiFi and CNs are the same ting... That is precisely the resaon why I was suggesting to – potentially – include a representative from Google India in part 3 of the session, dedicated to exploring potential interactions/partnerships with different stakeholders To be even more explicit, what I had in my mind was the posibility to consider Google Free WiFi (or other free wifi initiatives) as a potential source of connectivity for CNs… *De:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas. altermundi.net &lt;dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt;] *Em nome de * dc3(a)bob.ma *Enviada em:* sexta-feira, 22 de junho de 2018 09:23 *Para:* 'Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity ' < dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; *Assunto:* Re: [DC3] DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 I see it as not so much free vs. community as whether there is a sustainable model rather than one dependent upon a benevolent donor. A donor can play a role in establishing in idea if there is a path towards communities funding their connectivity be the community very local or national. The other issue is whether there is spotty coverage or a path for assuming what I’m calling Ambient Connectivity everywhere. Finally is this infrastructure or does one have to login which is what I call web-fi and not full connectivity. *From:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net <dc3-bounces@listas. altermundi.net> *On Behalf Of *Peter *Sent:* Friday, June 22, 2018 08:11 *To:* dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net; dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net *Subject:* Re: [DC3] DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14 Hard no on google. Free wifi and community networks are not the same thing On June 22, 2018 2:49:38 AM CDT, dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net wrote: Send DC3 mailing list submissions to dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dc3-request(a)listas.altermundi.net You can reach the person managing the list at dc3-owner(a)listas.altermundi.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DC3 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Planning the DC3 Session (Luca Belli) 2. Re: Planning the DC3 Session (Jane Coffin) ------------------------------ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:18:53 +0000 From: Luca Belli &lt;luca.belli(a)fgv.br&gt; To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; Cc: &quot;donna_scheeder(a)comcast.net&quot; &lt;donna_scheeder(a)comcast.net&gt; Subject: [DC3] Planning the DC3 Session Message-ID: &lt;4B6296ABAE1FC944984F6C9FE996FE19016B295747(a)DC6010.fgv.br&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, A further issue we should start discussing is the planning of the DC3 session. As DC3 has continuously produced outputs, we have a session slot by default but we should send a draft session proposal by 29 June. As discussed at Rightscon<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_…54>, the DC3 session could have a threefold structure featuring the following parts: 1. presentation of (at least some of) the initiatives featured in the 2018 DC3 Report (that should be the "CN Manual" mentioned in my previous email) 2. discussion with people in their early phase of CN development to understand the challenges they are facing 3. discussion with potential partners FYI, the 90 minutes time slot has been reestablished (thanks to all those who commented during the IGF stocktaking consultation requesting restauration of the 90 min slot!!). The session should be as much as possible, multistakeholder, gender balanced and geographically diverse. I propose to have up to 3 speakers in part 1; 2 for part 2; and 2 (or maybe 3) in part 3. The speakers for part 1 will be chosen amongst the contributors of the CN Manual. If anyone is already sure to submit a contribution for the CN manual, please send a message (on-list or a PM) so that I can include your name in the DRAFT session description. As regards part 2, Nico Pace offered to help liaise with people currently developing CNs and facing challenges. Nico can you suggest some names? As regards part 3, I was thinking that IFLA could be good (I am CCing Donna) and perhaps one Intergovernmental org that is dealing with CNs e.g. CITEL or African Union. Lastly, after having read what Google India is doing, providing Free WiFi at Indian train stations, I have started wondering if it could also be a potential partner to be included in the discussion https://qz.com/1300522/googles-free-wifi-at-railway-stations-is-a-way-of-li… What do you think? Best Luca [FGV Direito Rio] Luca Belli, PhD Senior Researcher Head of Internet Governance @ FGV<http://internet-governance.fgv.br/> luca.belli(a)fgv.br +55 21 3799 5763 @1lucabelli<https://twitter.com/1lucabelli> [http://www.fgv.br/mailing/Direito_Rio/assinatura_email/Ondas.png]