22 Nov
2015
22 Nov
'15
8:21 p.m.
As I explained in my talk at IGF the issue is not so much any particular technology but
the way we fund connectivity so that it is free-to-use like sidewalks and roads. I say
free-to-use rather than free or open because we need a sustainable funding model with
everyone in the community contributing. This works best, initially, with small communities
rather than trying to do large cities because then people are aware they are paying for
their shared resources rather than it being imposed from afar. The more local the better
because it allows us to assume what I am calling “ambient connectivity” in the immediate
area.
Key to this is understanding the concept of “best efforts” packets which doesn't
require assuring that every last packet gets through. Instead we provide resources that
anyone can use. This is not just about social networking but about creating technologies
that can be used for all purposes such as crop management, environmental monitor and
healthcare.
I write more about this at <http://rmf.vc/FurtherReading>
http://rmf.vc/FurtherReading but it’s a work-in-progress because it requires thinking very
differently from how traditional telecommunications works.
Bob Frankston
<http://Frankston.com> http://Frankston.com
@BobFrankston
From: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] On
Behalf Of Raoul Plommer
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 15:11
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: Re: [DC3] RES: Re: Future IGF Dynamic Coalition on Connected Communities
Hello to everyone and sorry for not answering the list sooner. I'm still in Brazil
for another ten days and just spent the last four days in the jungle. I am highly
motivated to help this project fly, but most of the work will have to wait until I'm
back in my cold country from 3rd of December onwards.
I think the name Community Networks is more of a household name, so in that sense it might
be catchier for the masses. On the other hand, DC3 is a catchier acronym than DCCN.
Community Networks and Community Connectivity both suite our purposes as I understand the
reason for creating this group, which is to create a source of knowledge to help people
build their own networks that can be again linked to each other. At the very least, it
should have information on the engineering perspective of those networks, both hardware
and software, and collect the best practices on the DC3 website. Like somebody already put
it, it's not the name that counts, but what we do for it.
This group should start with the engineering, because it is a more accurate science than
the other mentioned areas, that this group could be doing. It seems more concrete and the
results can be easily measured. Other areas like the legal framework for individual
countries' allowed radio frequency should probably follow fairly soon. I feel that
the engineering part is the biggest threshold stopping people from creating their own
networks and it is something that we should ask for help from groups like IETF and IEEE to
decide what those best practices would be. I have an impression that a lot of technical
geniuses work in them.
The website could be mirrored and hosted in different countries so that it's as
accessible as possible, and it'd be important to be able to pull all the available
information for offline reading too. I can help in making the website front-end and
coordinating things, for I'm not technically that talented. I still want to
participate because I think this project can make an immense impact for the connectedness
of all mankind. There are also gains in privacy and availability of information to
circumvent totalitarian means that obstruct the flows of information. Just the project for
a Pirate, and our global political movement can help to push this project forward and
start building networks in over fifty countries.
We need at least two profiles for the website, rural and urban, but there might be reasons
to make more, to differentiate best practices for metropolis-size cities and smaller
townships. The equipment should be as cheap as possible without damaging the quality of
the network and I think governments could actually chip in to boost the building of robust
and resilient networks for their citizens. I've heard rasberry pi is enough to have a
node in a MESH-network, but correct me if I'm wrong. It would also be useful to be
able to use old computers, because they can be acquired freely and it prolongs their
lifespan.
I hope I didn't rant on too much, but I wanted to blurt out all the thoughts
I've had on this project for many years already. I'm totally in favor of
learning some engineering skills for this and I've wanted to setup a MESH-network in
Helsinki for a long time already. I'm probably unemployed for quite a while now, so I
should have quite a bit of time on my hands. I am really looking forward to working with
all of you.
Raoul Plommer
https://twitter.com/plomm3r
https://fb.com/plommer
On 20 November 2015 at 10:47, Leandro Navarro <leandro(a)pangea.org
<mailto:leandro@pangea.org> > wrote:
Good to me too, Leandro.
On 19/11/15 19:32, Nicolás Echániz wrote:
On 11/19/2015 02:16 PM, parminder wrote:
On Thursday 19 November 2015 08:56 PM, Nicolás Echániz wrote:
Parminder,
Maybe: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity would be better?
(and we can keep the DC3 acronym)
Nico
It is certainly better than connected communities.
Bob is OK with this option, Parminder prefers it, I tend to agree after
this discussion.
So I propose we keep: *Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity* as
the name for this DC. While less "poetic" to my ear, it seems to better
describe our purpose and it does not present the bad aspects discussed
regarding the first option.
Can we agree on this? Is this OK for the rest who shared in this
discussion? Luca, Leandro, Mike, Ritu?
Cheers,
Nico
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3