Re: [DC3] A Community-Run ISP Is the Highest Rated Broadband Company in America

Thanks Osama & Jane for initiating the discussion about Community Network Xchange (CNX) 2018. We are hosting this year CNX on 31st October at UNESCO Office. The theme of Community Network Xchange (CNX) 2018 will be ‘Role of community networks and community radios in leveraging public wi-fi in Asia Pacific countries’. This year’s CNX will focus on the role that community radios and community networks can play in creating public wi-fi spaces in Asia Pacific. More details can be found here http://cnxapac.org Please feel free to contact me for any queries. With warm regards Ritu Srivastava General Manager - Research & Advocacy Digital Empowerment Foundation M: 9999369624 T: ritu_instablogs ________________________________ From: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net &lt;dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; on behalf of Sivasubramanian Muthusamy &lt;indiachennaix(a)gmail.com&gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 2:00:47 PM To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity Cc: brian(a)nycmesh.net Subject: Re: [DC3] A Community-Run ISP Is the Highest Rated Broadband Company in America Thank you Jane. @Osama, yes, it would be valuable to participate in this event. Would you be inviting leaders from Government? The event could also be an opportunity to showcase the value of Community networks in India and around the world (by short videos), and highlight the need for attention to the changes needed in the regulatory framework. Thank You. Sivasubramanian M On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 1:48 PM osama manzar <osamam@gmail.com<mailto:osamam@gmail.com>> wrote: Jane is right. ISOC and DEF are hosting CNX - Community Network Xchange in Delhi in Unesco Office on october 31. Siva, please block your date and do participate. We will have several community radio organisations also participating who would further go through training so that their own experience of running FM radio could also start CN using their existing infrastructure like towers etc. On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 13:05, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org<mailto:coffin@isoc.org>> wrote: Hi Siva – Super. Many are here to help you if you have other questions. Also – there is likely to be a CN Exchange in October or November in India/Delhi. Naveed can help you there. Best, Jane Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org<http://www.internetsociety.org> Skype: janercoffin Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429 From: <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet@gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com>> Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:18 PM To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>> Cc: "brian@nycmesh.net<mailto:brian@nycmesh.net>" <brian@nycmesh.net<mailto:brian@nycmesh.net>> Subject: Re: [DC3] A Community-Run ISP Is the Highest Rated Broadband Company in America Dear Jane, Thank you for these resources and the connection to Brian Hall. These resources demystify the steps involved in the creation of a community network. I am reading the preview paper on Spectrum Review and will share some comments by the 24th. Thank you. Sivasubramanian M On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org<mailto:coffin@isoc.org>> wrote: Hi Siva – Brian Hall from NYC Mesh is included in this thread. He can help explain NYCMesh. I fully agree that different connectivity models need to be considered and would add that different policy/regulatory models also need to be considered. It is something we are keenly in favor of 😉 Links to some recent papers on Community Networks also are below and attached is a Spectrum Paper we are looking for feed-back on by 24 August. Steve Song, Carlos Rey-Moreno, Mike Jensen are the primary authors with direction/collaboration with our team at the Internet Society. Please send me an email if you do have comments for us to consider. Other Resources: Case Study/Article re CN in Georgia: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/05/technology/caucuses-mountain… African CN Paper – Partnership with Carlos Rey-Moreno: https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/CommunityNetwork… India – CN Paper – Partnership with DEF: https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/W4C-Policy-Paper… Licensing Brief: https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Unleashing-Commu… Spectrum Approaches for CNs: https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Spectrum-Approac… The inputs to the IGF from this Coalition are really great and Luca has the links. Best, Jane Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org<http://www.internetsociety.org> Skype: janercoffin Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429 From: <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet@gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com>> Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>> Date: Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 1:47 PM To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>, osama manzar <osamam@gmail.com<mailto:osamam@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [DC3] A Community-Run ISP Is the Highest Rated Broadband Company in America Dear Jane, Thank you for the informative messages and links. DEF has done considerable work in the area of Community Networks, and several networks such as the one that Sarbani has written about exist in India. However there are issues related to the scale and scope of operation, which revolve around the regulatory policies that make it a little difficult to create and operate networks. If I understood well, the NY Mesh network has a supernode from the IXP and its bandwidth comes from the IXP. I am copying this thread to Osama Manzar of DEF to ask if there are examples of Community Networks in India that do not depend on agreements with Telecom Operators / telecom related ISPs, which may not wholeheartedly support Community Networks beyond the notion of small rural networks. There are a few problems that need to be addressed, and a different connectivity model may be required together with ample support from the Telecom ministry for the spread of community networks in India. Thank you. On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:01 PM Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org<mailto:coffin@isoc.org>> wrote: Apologies - I hit send before adding the links: DEF: http://defindia.org/ Video on The Land of Zero Connect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq27X8CJLTM Link to APC's Community Network Newsletter: https://www.apc.org/en/project/local-access-networks-can-unconnected-connec… ISOC's Community Network site: https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/community-networks/ Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org<http://www.internetsociety.org> Skype: janercoffin Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429 On 8/16/18, 11:52 AM, "dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> on behalf of Jane Coffin" <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> on behalf of coffin@isoc.org<mailto:coffin@isoc.org>> wrote: To add - you will find a lot of interesting information here at the DEF site: See also this video about a remote area of India and lack of connectivity and Community Networks coming in to help: We often hear these arguments about "coverage". The issue is not just the mobile network footprint (coverage area), but whether the services are affordable, and if end-users have a choice. Community Networks are a viable option in Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org<http://www.internetsociety.org> Skype: janercoffin Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429 On 8/16/18, 11:27 AM, "dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> on behalf of Sarbani Banerjee Belur" <dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> on behalf of sarbanibelur@iitb.ac.in<mailto:sarbanibelur@iitb.ac.in>> wrote: Hi Sivasubramanian, Community networks does exist in India and it is a sustainable initiative. Gram Marg at IIT Bombay has set up one spanning 10 villages in Palghar, Maharashtra, Digital Empowerment Foundation has set up some as well. There are more going to be set up in this year and the next. These CNs are set up in locations that have no mobile connectivity and are usually in remote, rural villages of India. Local ISPs have come to the rescue and provide bandwidth in such locations. With regards, Sarbani -- Dr. Sarbani Banerjee Belur Senior Project Research Scientist Program Manager Gram Marg: Rural Broadband Project Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Bombay Powai Mumbai 400076 Mob: +91 9867282979 +91 7045620077 Website: www.grammarg.in<http://www.grammarg.in> Homepage: http://homepages.iitb.ac.in/~sarbanibelur/ Blog: sarbanibelur.blogspot.com<http://sarbanibelur.blogspot.com> _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 -- Sivasubramanian M Please send all replies to 6.Internet@gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 -- Sivasubramanian M Please send all replies to 6.Internet@gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 -- Osama Manzar Founder & Director Digital Empowerment Foundation www.defindia.org<http://www.defindia.org> @osamamanzar @defindia +91-9810042862 Columnist @livemint: https://goo.gl/VkJF8N _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3