A followup on this. With Roger Baig we're writing on
sustainability/scalability (for GISWATCH) and we have done an initial
analysis on that for several local CN in several regions inside
. We can expand it to other networks (outside
), even
compare to IXP and report there. Knowing the deadlines for any
submission would help to decide. Kind regards, Leandro.
On 25/6/18 16:37, Jane Coffin wrote:
Hi Luca/All –
See inline….
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*Subject: *[DC3] RES: Planning the DC3 Session
Hi Jane,
Thanks for the comparison with IXPs that I think is very pertinent.
You raise very good points and, fo course it would be great to have
the time to analyse all in depth.
My only concern is that, although we have regained our 90-min slot, 90
min is still quite limited…
It would be very good to feture in the Manual a brief part on
“Gudelines for CN evolution/sustainability/scalability” or something
along this lines, if anyone is willing to draft it (perhaps based on
the IXP work promoted by ISOC?)
*We can take that on, but would clearly be working with APC/our CNSIG
on that.
**Remind me of your deadlines?
Best,
jane
It would also be great to have a brief piece on sevices
generated/fostered by the CN ecosystem. I have analyses some case
studies (
Guifi.net, TIC-AC, NWNP and Quintanalivre) in my contribution
for last year’s DC3 report
<http://bibliotecadigital.fgv.br/dspace/handle/10438/19924>. It would
be great if anyone (amogts the CN cited above? or someone else e.g.
Toronto Mesh people who apparently are developing their CN in parallel
with P2P applications) could draft a short contribution on how to
facilitate app generativity.
I have just added to the call for resources, two bullet points on
CN scalability and sustainability
App and service generation
All the best
Luca
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*Assunto:* Re: [DC3] Planning the DC3 Session
Hi Luca –
Some food for thought as I was not at Rights Con (sadly 😉).
CNs – from my experience – go through phases of development and phases
of challenges.
In the IXP world (which is similar) we saw the:
-start-up phase (mostly volunteer and often non-profit and not yet
charging for services or ports/other)
-Intermediate phase – from start-up to more developed platform,
membership base, and management of IXP by volunteers which transition
to charging annual fees or for services at the IXP. Customer service
switch from purely volunteer to hiring part-time staff/full time after
that (or in some cases still purely volunteer, but more organized or
more accustomed to what they are doing)– more members have generally
joined as the value-add (value) of the IXP was clear and members began
to invest more time and business focus into the IXP becoming more
stable, more of a non-profit business, and more focus on customer
service from the sense that the platform needed to be stable as it was
a boon to the community. Member base is transitioning from pure ISP
and a few content delivery networks.
-more mature non-profit entity (business if you will) – generally not
commercial, but a business nonetheless – more professionalized as its
member-base grows and diversifies and maintenance and expectations are
different when both the technical facilities and management need to
match expectations due to the value of the platform. Classic
bottom-up governance and a clear Internet player.
*there are challenges at all of these levels and I would suggest the
same is likely the case for CNs
For CNs – my guess is that we can chart development of a CN in a
similar manner.
-“start-up”
-Intermediate non-profit that is relied up for its service and the
team managing has more experience, can troubleshoot faster, and is
dedicated to customer service (or keeping the network up)
-More developed/non-profit that has shifted into a different mind-set
that may be more network growth focused, business focused in order to
make sure more gear can be purchased and the platform is managed.
Do you want to limit the workshop to start-up, but consider
identifying the other phases in the compendium for future consideration?
Clearly there is going to be great info from all of the phases.
The development of CNs is of great interest. What I have not noted is
the importance to the community – social value and the value of the CN
to local, regional, other authorities and what the corollary impact on
how one is able to advance reg/pol change.
Best,
Jane
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*Subject: *[DC3] Planning the DC3 Session
Hi all,
A further issue we should start discussing is the planning of the DC3
session.
As DC3 has continuously produced outputs, we have a session slot by
default but we should send a draft session proposal by *29 June*.
As discussed at Rightscon
<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_download/4391/1254>,
the DC3 session could have a threefold structure featuring the
following parts:
1. presentation of (at least some of) the initiatives featured in the
2018 DC3 Report (that should be the “CN Manual” mentioned in my
previous email)
2. discussion with people in their early phase of CN development to
understand the challenges they are facing
3. discussion with potential partners
FYI, the 90 minutes time slot has been reestablished (thanks to all
those who commented during the IGF stocktaking consultation requesting
restauration of the 90 min slot!!).
The session should be as much as possible, multistakeholder, gender
balanced and geographically diverse.
I propose to have up to 3 speakers in part 1; 2 for part 2; and 2 (or
maybe 3) in part 3.
The speakers for part 1 will be chosen amongst the contributors of the
CN Manual. If anyone is already sure to submit a contribution for the
CN manual, please send a message (on-list or a PM) so that I can
include your name in the DRAFT session description.
As regards part 2, Nico Pace offered to help liaise with people
currently developing CNs and facing challenges. Nico can you suggest
some names?
As regards part 3, I was thinking that IFLA could be good (I am CCing
Donna) and perhaps one Intergovernmental org that is dealing with CNs
e.g. CITEL or African Union.
Lastly, after having read what Google India is doing, providing Free
WiFi at Indian train stations, I have started wondering if it could
also be a potential partner to be included in the discussion
https://qz.com/1300522/googles-free-wifi-at-railway-stations-is-a-way-of-li…
What do you think?
Best
Luca
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