Hi Siva –
Super.
Many are here to help you if you have other questions.
Also – there is likely to be a CN Exchange in October or November in India/Delhi.
Naveed can help you there.
Best,
Jane
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Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:18 PM
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Cc: "brian(a)nycmesh.net" <brian(a)nycmesh.net>
Subject: Re: [DC3] A Community-Run ISP Is the Highest Rated Broadband Company in America
Dear Jane,
Thank you for these resources and the connection to Brian Hall. These resources demystify
the steps involved in the creation of a community network. I am reading the preview paper
on Spectrum Review and will share some comments by the 24th.
Thank you.
Sivasubramanian M
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM Jane Coffin <coffin(a)isoc.org> wrote:
Hi Siva –
Brian Hall from NYC Mesh is included in this thread. He can help explain NYCMesh.
I fully agree that different connectivity models need to be considered and would add that
different policy/regulatory models also need to be considered. It is something we are
keenly in favor of 😉
Links to some recent papers on Community Networks also are below and attached is a
Spectrum Paper we are looking for feed-back on by 24 August. Steve Song, Carlos
Rey-Moreno, Mike Jensen are the primary authors with direction/collaboration with our team
at the Internet Society. Please send me an email if you do have comments for us to
consider.
Other Resources:
Case Study/Article re CN in Georgia:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/05/technology/caucuses-mountain…
African CN Paper – Partnership with Carlos Rey-Moreno:
https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/CommunityNetwork…
India – CN Paper – Partnership with DEF:
https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/W4C-Policy-Paper…
Licensing Brief:
https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Unleashing-Commu…
Spectrum Approaches for CNs:
https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Spectrum-Approac…
The inputs to the IGF from this Coalition are really great and Luca has the links.
Best,
Jane
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Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 1:47 PM
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>et>, osama
manzar <osamam(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DC3] A Community-Run ISP Is the Highest Rated Broadband Company in America
Dear Jane,
Thank you for the informative messages and links. DEF has done considerable work in the
area of Community Networks, and several networks such as the one that Sarbani has written
about exist in India. However there are issues related to the scale and scope of
operation, which revolve around the regulatory policies that make it a little difficult to
create and operate networks.
If I understood well, the NY Mesh network has a supernode from the IXP and its bandwidth
comes from the IXP. I am copying this thread to Osama Manzar of DEF to ask if there are
examples of Community Networks in India that do not depend on agreements with Telecom
Operators / telecom related ISPs, which may not wholeheartedly support Community Networks
beyond the notion of small rural networks.
There are a few problems that need to be addressed, and a different connectivity model may
be required together with ample support from the Telecom ministry for the spread of
community networks in India.
Thank you.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:01 PM Jane Coffin <coffin(a)isoc.org> wrote:
Apologies - I hit send before adding the links:
DEF:
http://defindia.org/
Video on The Land of Zero Connect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq27X8CJLTM
Link to APC's Community Network Newsletter:
https://www.apc.org/en/project/local-access-networks-can-unconnected-connec…
ISOC's Community Network site:
https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/community-networks/
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On 8/16/18, 11:52 AM, "dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of Jane
Coffin" <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of coffin(a)isoc.org>
wrote:
To add - you will find a lot of interesting information here at the DEF site:
See also this video about a remote area of India and lack of connectivity and
Community Networks coming in to help:
We often hear these arguments about "coverage". The issue is not just the
mobile network footprint (coverage area), but whether the services are affordable, and if
end-users have a choice. Community Networks are a viable option in
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On 8/16/18, 11:27 AM, "dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of Sarbani
Banerjee Belur" <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of
sarbanibelur(a)iitb.ac.in> wrote:
Hi Sivasubramanian,
Community networks does exist in India and it is a sustainable initiative.
Gram Marg at IIT Bombay has set up one spanning 10 villages in Palghar,
Maharashtra, Digital Empowerment Foundation has set up some as well. There
are more going to be set up in this year and the next. These CNs are set
up in locations that have no mobile connectivity and are usually in
remote, rural villages of India.
Local ISPs have come to the rescue and provide bandwidth in such locations.
With regards,
Sarbani
In Chennai, India, I spoke to someone in an
educational institution about
starting a Community Network. He argued that access is no longer a problem
as Telecom companies offer 3G and 4G services everywhere. He wouldn't
listen to arguments concerning the cost and clever pricing models of
access
that indiscernably amass huge sums by microscopic extraction, wouldn't
listen to arguments about nominal and actual bandwidth. He and some
others
take the position that a case does not exist for Community Networks here.
Happens to be an iconic opinion. It is a challenge to present arguments,
articles such as this are of ample help.
Sivasubramanian M
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 5:20 PM Marco Zennaro <mzennaro(a)ictp.it> wrote:
Interesting news:
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ne5k5m/consumer-reports-broadban…
Cheers,
Marco
Marco Zennaro, PhD // Research Officer // T/ICT4D Lab // ICTP //
wireless.ictp.it
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