Re: [DC3] Scaling Power for Global Prosperity

Dear Michael, There is ample potential to BUILD IN sustainability as Community Networks are relatively (and considerably) new, and we could design anew, as from a blank sheet of paper if necessary. If 99% of the energy is consumed by the infrastructure, we could think of design innovations such as inland cable landing stations and low power Point to Point towers and wifi routers.  ( Aside from the power issues, there is the issue of radiation from towers and mobile phones which for some reason or other, does not get attention )  Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:14 PM Michael J. Oghia &lt;mike.oghia(a)gmail.com <mailto:mike.oghia@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Siva, Something I argued in the 2017 DC3 report is that CNs, by their nature, have to consider energy and other elements of sustainability within the design of the network. Energy, however, is but one of the factors involved in sustainability. I'd love to hear from others who actually deploy networks, though, to hear what you think. Best, -Michael On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:29 PM sivasubramanian muthusamy &lt;6.internet(a)gmail.com <mailto:6.internet@gmail.com>> wrote: The so called 5G would take the mobile phone technology further high above as a disproportionately high-energy technology.  The Stanford article seems to focus on "prioritizing and constructing high-energy systems", NOT on sustainable technologies and NOT on addressing the social costs of the high-energy mobile phone technology. Is there any research done on the comparable energy requirements of Community Based Networks? As we are relatively in the early phases of deploying Community Networks, there is potential to build energy sustainability in the design of large scale community networks.  Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy> twitter.com/shivaindia <http://twitter.com/shivaindia> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:07 PM Michael J. Oghia &lt;mike.oghia(a)gmail.com <mailto:mike.oghia@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, I want to share this article <https://ssir.org/articles/entry/scaling_power_for_global_prosperity#> with you all about ending energy poverty and what is needed to address electrification. I particularly liked this paragraph (emphasis mine): /"The mobile phone revolution is often cited as an example that can be replicated for energy. But mobile communications technology actually exemplifies the need for high-energy systems. Charging phone batteries accounts for less than 1 percent of the energy required for a smartphone to operate. The other 99 percent is needed by the wider economy to manufacture the phone, and to run the cell towers and data centers that enable the phone to function. *The mobile phone is a high-energy technology masquerading as a low-energy one*."/ Best, -Michael _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3