19 Nov
2015
19 Nov
'15
4:50 a.m.
I also agree with Luca in keeping the name as it is; it's broader :)
One other point that Parminder stated is this (I quote):
"
Other issue also is the role of private sector in this DC, which
unfortunately in the IGF space means big business and who are of course
not at all well inclined to the very idea of community ownership of
networks. In my conceptions of such ownership there is scope for private
businesses working at the local level for actual implementations,
although not necessarily. It depends on what model of community
ownership different communities chose. But then in any case that private
sector is never going to be able to reach the IGF spaces... "
I only went to one IGF so far (the last one), but I agree that the
private sector seems to be usually represented by big corporations there.
What we talked with Luca when we discussed the initiative for this
Coalition, was that maybe we can start by inviting some hardware
companies that are more or less friendly to community networks.
The option of inviting privately owned small businesses that focus on
providing connectivity to communities also sounds good.
In any case, maybe we can just start by agreeing that we prefer not to
invite big corporate players to this coalition, at least in the beginning.
One other important consideration. The page on Dynamic Coalition at the
IGF site says that we need "Representatives from at least three
stakeholder groups". This does not necessarily involve the private
sector... It could be academia, civil society and government for
example. In my perspective these stakeholder groups can represent many
existing interests in Community Networks.
Cheers,
Nico
On 11/18/2015 04:36 PM, Mike Jensen wrote:
Agree with the original name, i think the term
'broadband' has too much
baggage..
Mike
On 18-11-2015 14:14, Ritu Srivastava wrote:
Hi All
I agree!
As we are talking about simplest and low cost technology but with
effective solution especially about connecting communities and
providing them connectivity.
Regards
ritu
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Leandro Navarro <leandro(a)pangea.org
<mailto:leandro@pangea.org>> wrote:
Hi all,
On 18/11/15 19:08, Luca Belli wrote:
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Hi all,
It seems that I missed Ritu’s and Parminder’s emails. My apologies.
So, we now have 4 co-coordinators including Nico, myself, Ritu
and Parminder. This is excellent, as we also diversify
georgapgically.
Also, Parminder raised the issue of the name of the DC. So far,
the proposal was DC on Connected Communities but Parminder
proposes DC on Community Broadband.
My preference would be to keep the original proposal precisely
because it is more comprehensive. Broadband is an option of
connectivity (broad bandwidth) and the very definition of what
may be considered as ‘broad’ is not universal. It rather depends
on national standards. Also, I think that DC on Connected
Communities has the merit on focusing on people and stressing the
importance/role of communities.
What do others think?
I agree with your point. The EC has also a program on connected
communities as it focuses on people, their local communities, and
socio-economic factors.
Broadband sounds to me quite techie old/traditional/engineering
term, hard to explain to my daughter (not succeeded yet). Instead
of simply connectivity, it resonates with radio and frequency and
spectrum, speed or other measures of quality of access, QoE. In
Europe we start to discuss about what is the criteria to qualify
for broadband (>30Mbps, symmetric?, latency, etc).
Best regards, Leandro.
All the best
Luca
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*De:* parminder [parminder.js(a)gmail.com
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*Enviado:* quarta-feira, 18 de novembro de 2015 15:13
*Para:* Luca Belli
*Assunto:* Fwd: Re: Future IGF Dynamic Coalition on Connected
Communities
Luca
It seems you did not receive this expression of interest and a
few questions.... So resending from gmail id... parminder
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Luca
I am happy to work with you on this, including if required with
co-coordination.... In fact as a part of our current work on
community braodband in India we have been proposing a coalition
on community broadband and developing countries.... But this
could be that space.
Is there scope for discussing the name of proposed DC... I find
connected communities a bit vague, and I think community
broadband is rather more to the point. Connected communities
connotes a much larger scop area, the kind of work for instance
that we do in community informatics, and I am not sure we want
the DC to spread itself that thin. In doing so it will lose focus
form what independently is a very distinct and extremely
important area of practise and policy right now.
Other issue also is the role of private sector in this DC, hich
unfortunately in the IGF space means big business and who are of
course not at all well inclined to the very idea of community
ownership of networks. In my conceptions of such ownership there
is scope for private businesses working at the local level for
actual implementations, although not necessarily. It depends on
what model of community ownership different communities chose.
But then in any case that private sector is never going to be
able to reach the IGF spaces...
Look forward to hear yours and other people's comments on this.
parminder
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Dear all,
I hope you had nice trips back home after the IGF. (apologies
for the long email)
This is the first email to organise the future work of the IGF
Dynamic Coalition on Connected Communities.
First of all a couple of words on what are IGF Dynamic
Coalitions (DCs).
Along workshops, DCs represent the structural elements of the
IGF: they are self-organised, issue-specific groups comprising
members of various stakeholder groups.
The requirements for formulating a Dynamic Coalition:
· An Action Plan
· A mailing list
· The contact person
· Representatives from at least three
stakeholder groups (i.e. Civil society; Private sector;
Technical community; Academic community; Governments;
Intergovernmental organisations)
· Setting up a webpage or a blog is highly
recommended.
After the IGF workshop on Community Networks, you expressed your
interest for the initiative. This email is to start discussing
together how to shape our action plan.
I have prepared this pad, so that everyone can make suggestions
on what points should we focus
on
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/dc_on_connected_communities<https:…
Our goals could be the following (please do not hesitate to
modify using the pad):
* Identify good open-access readings that may be useful to
communicate to non-techies what CN are and how do they work;
* Mapping existing CN and try to foster communication amongst
them;
* Identify models of CN (e.g. rural CN, urban CN, etc.) and
best practices that can make them particularly efficient and
resilient both from a technical and organisational perspective;
* Identify best practices and worst practices as regards
national policies that facilitate or hinder the deployment
of community networks.
* Consolidate and publish all this ideas into some ‘Community
Network Guidelines/Best practices’ to be presented at the
next IGF and divulgated on the future DC3 website.
Thanks to Nicolas, we already have a mailing-list! (many thanks
Nicolas!!!)
<https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3>https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
Besides English, I think it would be fair to allow people to
communicate in Spanish or Portuguese in order to be as inclusive
as possible. What do you think?
The following persons expressed their interest in the DC3 (feel
free to state to which IGF stakeholder group you would like to
be associated):
· Bob Frankston
· Nicolás Echániz
· Ritu Srivastava
· Janara Sousa
· Otavio Vinhas
· Catherine Middleton
· <mailto:plommer@gmail.com>plommer@gmail.com please
state your name J
· <mailto:edliano@hotmail.com>edliano@hotmail.com please
state your name J
· Lee Hibbard
· Frédéric Donck
· Diego Vicentin
· Nathalia Foditsch
· <mailto:yzdrrr@riseup.net>yzdrrr@riseup.net also
please state your name J
· Luca Belli
· Jamila Venturini
· Kevin Bankston
I would be honoured to act as contact person/coordinator and I
would love if anyone else wanted to share this task with me as
co-coordinator(s).
Just to provide some info regarding myself, I have been
participating to the IGF over the past 5 years, I have worked
for the IGF Secretariat and I have funded/coordinated two DCs
(DC on Net Neutrality and on Platform Responsibility). I was
previously working for the Council of Europe Internet Governance
Unit and I am now researcher at Center for Technology and
Society at FGV, Rio de Janeiro. My work is to produce research
advising policy people on how to take sustainable decisions.
I look forward to hearing from you and feel free to share this
email.
All the best,
Luca
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