Glenn, you’re raising the issue which I want to understand better. I’m on a flight to CES and don’t know how much time I’ll have to be involved in the conversation this week. I agree that it is important to have a sustainable funding model but, as I wrote in http://rmf.vc/BBToInfrastructure the question is whether connectivity is treated like a billable service or provided to the community as shared infrastructure without a paywall. Are there examples of the latter being supported by Airfund? s I wrote in http://rmf.vc/BBToInfrastructure which I posted to this list a week ago Bob Frankston https://Frankston.com @BobFrankston From: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] On Behalf Of Glenn McKnight Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 13:06 To: Judith Hellerstein &lt;judith(a)jhellerstein.com&gt;om>; Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; Subject: Re: [DC3] Fwd: RE: Georgia - Republic of - Amazing Article - Community Network in the high-mountains of the Caucuses One of the catches is the alliance with a for profit company G Glenn McKnight NARALO Secretariat mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 . On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Judith Hellerstein &lt;judith(a)jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> > wrote: HI All, We just got confirmation from Ben and Melissa who are in charge of the Airband Initiative and they stated that they are now opening this program up to Non-profits as long as they met the conditions listed below which seem to be 1) have revenue coming in and 2) a solid business / financial model (strategic/long-term). So if Bosco or any other non-profit community network wants to apply they should go ahead and apply if they meet these conditions. Thanks Ben for jumping in and getting clarifications. This is indeed good news Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 <https://maps.google.com/?q=3001+Veazey+Terrace+NW,+Washington+DC+20008&entry=gmail&source=g> Phone: (202) 362-5139 <tel:(202)%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <tel:(202)%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith(a)jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com <http://www.jhellerstein.com> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: RE: [DC3] Georgia - Republic of - Amazing Article - Community Network in the high-mountains of the Caucuses Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:57:42 +0000 From: Melissa Sassi <mailto:mesassi@microsoft.com> &lt;mesassi(a)microsoft.com&gt; To: Ben Wallis (CELA) <mailto:bewallis@microsoft.com> &lt;bewallis(a)microsoft.com&gt;om>, steve(a)villagetelco.org <mailto:steve@villagetelco.org> <mailto:steve@villagetelco.org> &lt;steve(a)villagetelco.org&gt;rg>, Judith(a)jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> &lt;Judith(a)jhellerstein.com&gt; Ben is correct. The externally facing material definitely calls out for-profit entities, and we do not plan to adjust the material that is currently out there. That said, we had some interesting conversations at IGF with the Community Network community, and decided that we could be open to considering a nonprofit as long as the below conditions are in order. Make sense? From: Ben Wallis (CELA) Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 9:55 AM To: steve(a)villagetelco.org <mailto:steve@villagetelco.org> ; Judith(a)jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Cc: Melissa Sassi <mailto:mesassi@microsoft.com> &lt;mesassi(a)microsoft.com&gt; Subject: RE: [DC3] Georgia - Republic of - Amazing Article - Community Network in the high-mountains of the Caucuses Hi Steve, Judith Just to clarify re the Microsoft Airband Fund, I think the key is that applicants need to have revenue coming in and a solid business / financial model (strategic/long-term). So I understand that the Fund would be open to considering applications from non-commercial bodies as long as they have that kind of sustainable and strategic financial model. I am copying Melissa Sassi, who can help if you have further questions. Kind regards Ben Ben Wallis Regulatory Policy Analyst Microsoft Corporation Telecom and Internet Governance bewallis(a)microsoft.com <mailto:bewallis@microsoft.com> T: [+1] 425-706-9254 <tel:(425)%20706-9254> From: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] On Behalf Of Steve Song Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 5:42 AM To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net> > Subject: Re: [DC3] Georgia - Republic of - Amazing Article - Community Network in the high-mountains of the Caucuses Thanks Judith. I think Airband is only open to commercial startups. Cheers... Steve On 7 January 2018 at 18:36, Judith Hellerstein &lt;judith(a)jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> > wrote: HI Steve, Thanks for this excellent article. See,s like the BOSCO group may be interested in applying for one of Microsoft's Airband Grants. Here is a link to their site, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/affordable-access-initiative/grant-fund <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Faffordable-access-initiative%2Fgrant-fund&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=YxpsxH8dWzrxiMbbko6l6JYEECDlhAnbhOdq9DpcMW4%3D&reserved=0> Applications need to be in by January 31, 2018 and I think based on their goals and objectives that they would be a great candidate for it Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaps.google.com%2F%3Fq%3D3001%2BVeazey%2BTerrace%2BNW%2C%2BWashington%2BDC%2B20008%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=qjlQWhLr5Rm96Vy3w1WgsHN7nyOL9yPJnp%2Bb%2BNM%2BMi8%3D&reserved=0> Phone: (202) 362-5139 <tel:%28202%29%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 <tel:%28202%29%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith(a)jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhellerstein.com&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=exRM2QwyS0fiJwD9r5O5yKdPU2Z0KY%2Fen7tYy6psLrQ%3D&reserved=0> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fjhellerstein%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=3bJ11EBBIVOiQ6wCjmKoAq8ZQN0afaoSRhYZANUyUhw%3D&reserved=0> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 1/7/2018 12:38 PM, Steve Song wrote: And more positive news, this time about BOSCO in Northern Uganda https://www.ncronline.org/news/world/church-provides-internet-northern-ugan… <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncronline.org%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fchurch-provides-internet-northern-uganda-connects-more-computers&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=WGENV6%2BELfswgDGTvngvdzbXuN8jBcfo8PWWs6Y%2Fdjo%3D&reserved=0> Kudos to Tonny and his team. Cheers... Steve On 6 January 2018 at 10:47, Jane Coffin &lt;coffin(a)isoc.org <mailto:coffin@isoc.org> > wrote: Hey All – Some inspiration for 2018. For those that were at IGF 2017 - you met Rati and Ucha (also at IGF 2016). They were key to this project along with our European team. Many of you met Maarit in December – she is cc’d here! Onward with the goodness good people! https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/05/technology/caucuses-mountain… <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Finteractive%2F2018%2F01%2F05%2Ftechnology%2Fcaucuses-mountains-internet.html&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=QdLW2m2Sdgra9CxRj9lKQ7JemILlvk6H2wUHBFImdjg%3D&reserved=0> Best, Jane Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.internetsociety.org&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=QHum1L4U%2FBiWMlxmsiISvFoWojHdtvRVS5KFJwyTVkg%3D&reserved=0> Skype: janercoffin Mobile/WhatsApp: +1.202.247.8429 <tel:%28202%29%20247-8429> From: &lt;dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net> > on behalf of Jane Coffin &lt;coffin(a)isoc.org <mailto:coffin@isoc.org> > Reply-To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net> > Date: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity &lt;dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net> > Cc: Matthew Rantanen &lt;mrantanen(a)sctdv.net <mailto:mrantanen@sctdv.net> > Subject: [DC3] CNs, Indigenous Communities, and one of the closing words at IGF 2017 - Matt Rantanen Hi All – Matt Rantanen (Cree Indian and much more) was asked to speak in the closing segment of the IGF. He is a community builder, CN manager, and a great colleague. Thanks go to Renata, Judith, Glenn and others who are making sure that indigenous communities have a seat at the table (ISOC and APC helping there, too, along with CNs around the planet). Recognition of the “Closing words” are here… "indigenous peoples of the world should have a seat at the table on Internet governance and be included in the decision-making level of the process." https://www.unog.ch/unog/website/news_media.nsf/(httpNewsByYear_en)/0F063B1… <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unog.ch%2Funog%2Fwebsite%2Fnews_media.nsf%2F%2528httpNewsByYear_en%2529%2F0F063B1FA2812028C12581FD00635BEF%3FOpenDocument&data=02%7C01%7Cbewallis%40microsoft.com%7C6a1a901802ee4692ca8f08d5569d9db6%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C636510157334590740&sdata=HBP6C%2B7n7XEC5rIEENFFGV3cRB2m6K70odsmwNl7vlo%3D&reserved=0> I have a vid, but looking for a better one. 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