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Regards Amali De Silva-Mitchell
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the world’s first peer-to-peer wireless network
I am struggling to understand what is P2P about this
It seems more like FON + LoRaWan + blockchain
Joly
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World’s first? This idea of extreme reductionism seems to be a recurring theme and often
coupled with blockchain as the solution.
One issue is the idea that you can price for each bit as if it were a physical thing had
intrinsic value and a well-defined portion of a whole when value is in the whole, not in
each individual part.
It’s a reminder of the challenge people have of thinking in terms of empowering
communities to own the common infrastructure. It’s one of the C’s in DC3.
Bob Frankston
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the world’s first peer-to-peer wireless network
I am struggling to understand what is P2P about this
It seems more like FON + LoRaWan + blockchain
Joly
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On 06/07/20 6:37 PM, dc3(a)bob.ma wrote:
World’s first? This idea of extreme reductionism seems to be a
recurring theme and often coupled with blockchain as the solution.
One issue is the idea that you can price for each bit as if it were a
physical thing had intrinsic value and a well-defined portion of a
whole when value is in the whole, not in each individual part.
Bob, I entirely agree. But with your permission may I attempt an analogy
with data and its value. Right, connectivity's value is in the whole not
any one part of it, and therefore it is should be community owned -- as
this group advocates. But is it also not so with data, where too the
value is in the whole (the patterns in it) and not individual pieces of
it? Why should then data also not be community owned, rather that it be
commodified? (Or even be individualised, in terms of data's economic
value, as a lot of initiatives currently attempt. Privacy right is
different, as a negative right, a right against....)
It’s a reminder of the challenge people have of thinking in terms of
empowering communities to own the common infrastructure. It’s one of
the C’s in DC3.
In the same way, communities should be empowered to own their common
data infrastructures, intelligence arising from which should be
collectively managed for common good. Would such a comparison to the
connectivity debate/commons hold?
My apologies, if this community working in the area of connectivity
commons considers bringing in data commons here as a digression and 'out
of scope'. The thought just occurred to me on reading Bob's - always
evocative -- comments.
parminder
Bob Frankston
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the world’s first peer-to-peer wireless network
I am struggling to understand what is P2P about this
It seems more like FON + LoRaWan + blockchain
Joly
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It seems that the definition of peer may be different here : )
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the world’s first peer-to-peer wireless network
I am struggling to understand what is P2P about this
It seems more like FON + LoRaWan + blockchain
Joly
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