Dear friends, this title i found in the archive. I like it. Now i am subscribed to this list. On the Governance list i read the first time about this group. Then in the list "BattleMesh". I beg for tolerance with my bad English. I was not able to visit the IUF and IGF forums 2015 in Joao Pessoa. I don't get a Visa, because i stayed in this time 3 month in Brasil. I had to go out. Short to me. German, 67 years (1949), Master electric (german professional title) and engineer for technical informatic. In general i am oriented to the combination of theory and praxis. Therefore free technology is in primary for me first free hardware and not software. Since 5,5 years i live in Latin America. Nearly 3 years in Venezuela. The other time from Mexico to Chile/Argentina. Mostly oriented to the ALBA states. Dear Nico, in April you wrote about Ecuador and have referenced the text from ecuadortransparente.org. It is true, we have to be sceptic in all what is written. Also in that, what we write self. 3 month i lived in Ecuador. My participation in the FLOK society was blocked. Clear. In this time mostly i cooperate with CICE Amaru (Confederation Intercultural CampesinAs Ecuador), the people from Intag Valey, the students and professors at different universities, Software Libre and FSFLA (Free Software Foundation Latin America). And with JCE, Juventud Comunista Ecuador and PCE, Partido Comunista Ecuador. In a groop from 20 different communities from all parts of Ecuador we had a meeting with the secretary from Minister for Transport, responsible for the telecommunication. We tried to explain him, what we have to do. It is nearly the same, what we find in the DC3 proposals. All my friends was clear, with this people in this state institutions it will be impossible. They speak about telecommunication and don't understand anything. Their only interest is, to be important. And in the result of the earthquake we see the same. Andre Gunder Frank wrote 50 years before: Latin America, the development of underdevelopment. It is a strategic action to block and destroy the self-organisation. And not from outside. We see it in Argentina, Brasil and Venezuela. The objects for me are the local Independence. And this is always based on the local independent economy. And every economy is based on the local technical infrastructure and the independence in the technology. I don't speak about the distribution system with the money system. In the economy we don't find money. We know, we need our global telecommunication for our global interconnection for our global cooperation. In the Future of the Internet Initiative White Paper Internet Fragmentation: An Overview Vinton Cerf, William Drake, Wolfgang Kleinwaechter http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_FII_Internet_Fragmentation_An_Overview_201… we find the core: "From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be able to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to receive them." In the text from Luca we find the same: "CONNECTIVITY "Connectivity" is the ability to reach all endpoints connected to the Internet without any form of restriction to the content exchanged, enabling end-usersto run any application and use any tyoe of service via any device." And much more: "COMMUNITY NETWORK “Community networks” are a subset of crowdsourced networks that are structured to be open, free, and neutral. In these communities the infrastructure is established by the participants and is managed as a common resource, owned by the community. Community networks can be operationalised, wholly or partly, through local private sector entities." We need our perspectives and visions. In the practical implementation we need a strong decentralisation. It is depend on our basic design principles. You know, maybe, my proposals for the "Internet, the inter-connection of local networks" to NetMundial, IGF, ISOC and EuroSurv. It is always the same. We have some basic questions, what we have to discuss. And i see, that this group DC3 is oriented to this basic discussion. This makes me very happy. many greetings, willi Manaus, Brasil --- Este email foi escaneado pelo Avast antivírus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus