Excellent!
Thanks Osama!
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de osama manzar
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 12 de dezembro de 2016 22:18
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>et>; Rajat
Kumar <rajat.kumar(a)defindia.net>et>; Ritu Srivastava <ritu.sri(a)defindia.net>et>;
Udita Chaturvedi <udita(a)defindia.org>
Assunto: Re: [DC3] DECLARATION Was: Neutrality of technology in the Guadalajara
declaration
Dear Luca
For sure we want to add some very pertinent points in general and DEF's CN
definitions and principles and practices.
Will do so before end of the month
Osama
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 at 14:30, Luca Belli
<luca.belli@fgv.br<mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br>> wrote:
Hi all,
I agree with Roul that modifications to the text of the Declaration should be discussed on
the DC3 mailing list, so that
everyone has the possibility to provide feedback.
Several modifications were proposed last week and I think we should have a couple weeks to
carefully read and discuss
them.
Here is the pad with the latest version of the Declaration
https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration
Please take your time to read it and to express your feedback, so that we can consolidate
all comments into a consensus
document.
Given that many of us will have holydays over the next weeks, I propose DC3 members
provide their feedback on the latest
version of the declaration by 3 January.
All the best
Luca
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Luca Belli, PhD
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Em nome de Raoul Plommer
Enviada em: sábado, 10 de dezembro de 2016 23:22
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
<dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>
Assunto: [DC3] Neutrality of technology in the Guadalajara declaration
Dear all,
There was quite a bit of disagreement on the language used in the declaration, partially
because the sentence was added there only today, without the acceptance wider community. I
think it was poor judgement to add it today without any
discussion with all the members of our Dynamic Coalition. However, now that it's out
there, and we ended up spending almost two hours of our precious time on these sudden
additions, we might as well include this, admittedly fair point. Here are my proposals
of the different variations on just one sentence that could be used instead.
One of the sentences that was discussed, is as follows:
"We acknowledge that communication technology is not neutral and can exacerbate
unequal power relations in the community."
...and here are my suggestions. I wrote the crucial changes in bold:
1) We acknowledge that communication technologies are not
always neutral and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
2) We acknowledge that the usage of communication technology is not neutral and can
exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
3) We acknowledge that community networks are not neutral and can exacerbate unequal power
relations in the community.
As you can see, my suggestions are not making that much change to the spirit of the
meaning, but just wording it differently will actually make our statement more accurate
and popular, as well as less controversial. The declaration should really alienate as
few people as possible and we really need to keep that in mind, while still making a
definitive statement that is actually saying something.
I.e. the hammer itself IS neutral (although people with no hands won't be able to use
it properly. Also, we're all babies at some point and babies won't be able to
lift the hammer). It is really the usage of the hammer that can be used
in non-neutral way and is the most important acknowledgement, that we DO need for this
specific declaration. My first suggestion captures this point of view sufficiently
enough.
I feel that all of us agreed on the spirit of the sentence, and I also think that my first
suggestion is the one that would really be the best for our purposes. It takes into the
account the fact, that community networks can be misused (for example,
in an unequal way considering gender), but it's not saying that community networks
are not neutral by default. Even if they were (and I don't think they are), I feel
that's an unnecessarily negative statement and we should avoid those in our
otherwise
very positive vision.
Somebody suggested to use a differentiating platform (like GitHub?) for the comparison of
the crucial sentences and paragraphs in the declaration and I think that's a very
good idea. Then we can vote on different versions of them and decide
which ones are the best for our purposes. We obviously need to build consensus on our
constitution and hopefully the output of that will be a declaration/constitution that we
can all agree on.
Thanks,
-Raoul
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