17 Jun
2019
17 Jun
'19
10:49 p.m.
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and comments from
participants. The meeting we had after the session was really excellent, we progressed a
lot with regard to the type of document we want to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a
cherry on top, the meeting was perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term “Model Policy” for our outcome but to rather call
it Policy Proposal to signify that we are not being prescriptive but we are simply putting
forward suggestions for proper CN policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should be to offer useful
information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a threefold outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements. For this purpose, we
could utilise a brief 2-page text that Steve and Carlos prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an introduction explaining
that the aim of the proposal is to offer a set of core (and non-exhaustive) elements as
policy suggestions to regulators willing to consider CNs and that such elements should
ALWAYS be discussed as a first step with local CN representatives, to understand the
specificities of such elements in the local context and obtain feedback on the proposed
elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas, while already
referencing existing literature and good practices that should be considered by
regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over the next months,
ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them into the final section of the outcome
document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast organising a series of 4
webinars dedicated to the abovementioned areas (to be called “Rights to the network” or
something along these lines). Steve and I have volunteered to be the curators of the first
and last webinar respectively. I have not noted in my notes other volunteers so there are
still two webinar left open in case you are interested in being a curator: be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the presentation and debate of the
outcome document, to have further feedback. We can print copies of the document to present
them at the IGF but the goal is to use the outcome doc as a working document that could be
updated in the future and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
17 Jul
17 Jul
3:06 p.m.
Hi all, the first one of the webinars listed by Luca is taking place now
here: https://www.youtube.com/user/PCMLPOXFORD in case you want to join.
Best,
carlos
On 2019/06/17 23:49, Luca Belli wrote:
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and
comments from participants. The meeting we had after the session was
really excellent, we progressed a lot with regard to the type of
document we want to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a cherry on
top, the meeting was perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term “Model Policy” for our outcome
but to rather call it Policy Proposal to signify that we are not being
prescriptive but we are simply putting forward suggestions for proper
CN policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should
be to offer useful information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a
threefold outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements. For
this purpose, we could utilise a brief 2-page text that Steve and
Carlos prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an
introduction explaining that the aim of the proposal is to offer a set
of core (and non-exhaustive) elements as policy suggestions to
regulators willing to consider CNs and that such elements should
ALWAYS be discussed as a first step with local CN representatives, to
understand the specificities of such elements in the local context and
obtain feedback on the proposed elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas,
while already referencing existing literature and good practices that
should be considered by regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over
the next months, ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them
into the final section of the outcome document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast
organising a series of 4 webinars dedicated to the abovementioned
areas (to be called “Rights to the network” or something along these
lines). Steve and I have volunteered to be the curators of the first
and last webinar respectively. I have not noted in my notes other
volunteers so there are still two webinar left open in case you are
interested in being a curator: be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the
presentation and debate of the outcome document, to have further
feedback. We can print copies of the document to present them at the
IGF but the goal is to use the outcome doc as a working document that
could be updated in the future and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
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Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
3:17 p.m.
Can't make it, but best to all!
On 17 July 2019 5:06:22 PM GMT+02:00, Carlos <carlos(a)apc.org> wrote:
Hi all, the first one of the webinars listed by Luca is
taking place
now
here: https://www.youtube.com/user/PCMLPOXFORD in case you want to
join.
Best,
carlos
On 2019/06/17 23:49, Luca Belli wrote:
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and
comments from participants. The meeting we had after the session was
really excellent, we progressed a lot with regard to the type of
document we want to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a cherry on
top, the meeting was perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term “Model Policy” for our
outcome
but to rather call it Policy Proposal to signify
that we are not
being
prescriptive but we are simply putting forward
suggestions for proper
CN policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should
be to offer useful information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a
threefold outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements.
For
this purpose, we could utilise a brief 2-page
text that Steve and
Carlos prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an
introduction explaining that the aim of the proposal is to offer a
set
of core (and non-exhaustive) elements as policy
suggestions to
regulators willing to consider CNs and that such elements should
ALWAYS be discussed as a first step with local CN representatives, to
understand the specificities of such elements in the local context
and
obtain feedback on the proposed elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas,
while already referencing existing literature and good practices that
should be considered by regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over
the next months, ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them
into the final section of the outcome document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast
organising a series of 4 webinars dedicated to the abovementioned
areas (to be called “Rights to the network” or something along these
lines). Steve and I have volunteered to be the curators of the first
and last webinar respectively. I have not noted in my notes other
volunteers so there are still two webinar left open in case you are
interested in being a curator: be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the
presentation and debate of the outcome document, to have further
feedback. We can print copies of the document to present them at the
IGF but the goal is to use the outcome doc as a working document that
could be updated in the future and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
--
Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD
Local Access Policy and Regulation Coordinator
Association for Progressive Communications
https://www.apc.org/en/project/connecting-unconnected-supporting-community-…
Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
3:35 p.m.
New subject: RES: Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Thanks for sharing the link Carlos!
I am enjoying the debate!
Are we collecting resources on the webinar theme "accessing the network"?
Is there a pad or other tool to collect/ad references?
All the best
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Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation
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Botafogo, 190 13º andar
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro, RJ - CEP: 22250-900
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De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome
de Carlos
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de julho de 2019 12:06
Para: dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net
Assunto: Re: [DC3] Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Hi all, the first one of the webinars listed by Luca is taking place now here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/PCMLPOXFORD in case you want to join.
Best,
carlos
On 2019/06/17 23:49, Luca Belli wrote:
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and comments from
participants. The meeting we had after the session was really excellent, we progressed a
lot with regard to the type of document we want to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a
cherry on top, the meeting was perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term "Model Policy" for our outcome but to
rather call it Policy Proposal to signify that we are not being prescriptive but we are
simply putting forward suggestions for proper CN policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should be to offer useful
information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a threefold outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements. For this purpose, we
could utilise a brief 2-page text that Steve and Carlos prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an introduction explaining
that the aim of the proposal is to offer a set of core (and non-exhaustive) elements as
policy suggestions to regulators willing to consider CNs and that such elements should
ALWAYS be discussed as a first step with local CN representatives, to understand the
specificities of such elements in the local context and obtain feedback on the proposed
elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas, while already
referencing existing literature and good practices that should be considered by
regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over the next months,
ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them into the final section of the outcome
document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast organising a series of 4
webinars dedicated to the abovementioned areas (to be called "Rights to the
network" or something along these lines). Steve and I have volunteered to be the
curators of the first and last webinar respectively. I have not noted in my notes other
volunteers so there are still two webinar left open in case you are interested in being a
curator: be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the presentation and debate of the
outcome document, to have further feedback. We can print copies of the document to present
them at the IGF but the goal is to use the outcome doc as a working document that could be
updated in the future and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
--
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Local Access Policy and Regulation Coordinator
Association for Progressive Communications
https://www.apc.org/en/project/connecting-unconnected-supporting-community-…
Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
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29 Jul
29 Jul
11:23 a.m.
New subject: RES: Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Hi all,
Thanks to those of you who tuned to watch Steve's webinar! The recording is available
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjYmOYZzWk
I've started a pad to collect resources as we go, and I've added the links and
comments sent by Quiliro and Bob so far (thanks very much for those):
https://pad.codigosur.org/DC3CommentsResources
Please feel free to add/amend!
Best,
Kira
From: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net> On
Behalf Of Luca Belli
Sent: 17 July 2019 16:35
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: [DC3] RES: Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Thanks for sharing the link Carlos!
I am enjoying the debate!
Are we collecting resources on the webinar theme "accessing the network"?
Is there a pad or other tool to collect/ad references?
All the best
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_direito_rio.jpg]
Luca Belli, PhD
Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_tel.jpg]+55 21 3799 5763 t
@1lucabelli<https://twitter.com/1lucabelli>
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Botafogo, 190 13º andar
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro, RJ - CEP: 22250-900
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<https://internet-governance.fgv.br/>
De: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
[mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de Carlos
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de julho de 2019 12:06
Para: dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
Assunto: Re: [DC3] Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Hi all, the first one of the webinars listed by Luca is taking place now here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/PCMLPOXFORD in case you want to join.
Best,
carlos
On 2019/06/17 23:49, Luca Belli wrote:
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and comments from
participants. The meeting we had after the session was really excellent, we progressed a
lot with regard to the type of document we want to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a
cherry on top, the meeting was perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term "Model Policy" for our outcome but to
rather call it Policy Proposal to signify that we are not being prescriptive but we are
simply putting forward suggestions for proper CN policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should be to offer useful
information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a threefold outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements. For this purpose, we
could utilise a brief 2-page text that Steve and Carlos prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an introduction explaining
that the aim of the proposal is to offer a set of core (and non-exhaustive) elements as
policy suggestions to regulators willing to consider CNs and that such elements should
ALWAYS be discussed as a first step with local CN representatives, to understand the
specificities of such elements in the local context and obtain feedback on the proposed
elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas, while already
referencing existing literature and good practices that should be considered by
regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over the next months,
ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them into the final section of the outcome
document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast organising a series of 4
webinars dedicated to the abovementioned areas (to be called "Rights to the
network" or something along these lines). Steve and I have volunteered to be the
curators of the first and last webinar respectively. I have not noted in my notes other
volunteers so there are still two webinar left open in case you are interested in being a
curator: be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the presentation and debate of the
outcome document, to have further feedback. We can print copies of the document to present
them at the IGF but the goal is to use the outcome doc as a working document that could be
updated in the future and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
--
Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD
Local Access Policy and Regulation Coordinator
Association for Progressive Communications
https://www.apc.org/en/project/connecting-unconnected-supporting-community-…
Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
![http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_ass_email.jpg]luc…](http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_ass_email.jpg]luca.belli@fgv.br%3Cmailto:luca.belli@fgv.br%3E){kind=link}
30 Jul
30 Jul
4:07 p.m.
New subject: RES: RES: Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Hi Kira,
Thank you very much for this.
The first webinar was excellent and it is very good to have a shared pad to collect the
available resources.
I have also linked the pad you shared in the on dedicated to the CN Policy Proposal
https://pad.codigosur.org/DraftPolicyModelCN
As discussed, it would be great to have as a final section of our DC3 outcome document,
the references grouped under the four theme of the webinars.
Please let us know if you already have any previsions regarding when will be the next
webinars so that we can save the dates. One more time, thank you very much for the
excellent work with this and also congratulations to Steve for the great conversation!
All the best
Luca
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Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation
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Botafogo, 190 13º andar
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro, RJ - CEP: 22250-900
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De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome
de Kira Allmann
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 29 de julho de 2019 08:23
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Assunto: Re: [DC3] RES: Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Hi all,
Thanks to those of you who tuned to watch Steve's webinar! The recording is available
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjYmOYZzWk
I've started a pad to collect resources as we go, and I've added the links and
comments sent by Quiliro and Bob so far (thanks very much for those):
https://pad.codigosur.org/DC3CommentsResources
Please feel free to add/amend!
Best,
Kira
From: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
<dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>>
On Behalf Of Luca Belli
Sent: 17 July 2019 16:35
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
<dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>
Subject: [DC3] RES: Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Thanks for sharing the link Carlos!
I am enjoying the debate!
Are we collecting resources on the webinar theme "accessing the network"?
Is there a pad or other tool to collect/ad references?
All the best
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_direito_rio.jpg]
Luca Belli, PhD
Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_tel.jpg]+55 21 3799 5763 t
@1lucabelli<https://twitter.com/1lucabelli>
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_direito_rio_map.j… de
Botafogo, 190 13º andar
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro, RJ - CEP: 22250-900
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_ass_email.jpg]luc…
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/2018/direito_rio/assinatura/fgv_ass_url.jpg]inter…
<https://internet-governance.fgv.br/>
De: dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
[mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de Carlos
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de julho de 2019 12:06
Para: dc3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>
Assunto: Re: [DC3] Report on RightsCon Meeting + DC3 Annual Outcome
Hi all, the first one of the webinars listed by Luca is taking place now here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/PCMLPOXFORD in case you want to join.
Best,
carlos
On 2019/06/17 23:49, Luca Belli wrote:
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and comments from
participants. The meeting we had after the session was really excellent, we progressed a
lot with regard to the type of document we want to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a
cherry on top, the meeting was perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term "Model Policy" for our outcome but to
rather call it Policy Proposal to signify that we are not being prescriptive but we are
simply putting forward suggestions for proper CN policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should be to offer useful
information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a threefold outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements. For this purpose, we
could utilise a brief 2-page text that Steve and Carlos prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an introduction explaining
that the aim of the proposal is to offer a set of core (and non-exhaustive) elements as
policy suggestions to regulators willing to consider CNs and that such elements should
ALWAYS be discussed as a first step with local CN representatives, to understand the
specificities of such elements in the local context and obtain feedback on the proposed
elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas, while already
referencing existing literature and good practices that should be considered by
regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over the next months,
ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them into the final section of the outcome
document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast organising a series of 4
webinars dedicated to the abovementioned areas (to be called "Rights to the
network" or something along these lines). Steve and I have volunteered to be the
curators of the first and last webinar respectively. I have not noted in my notes other
volunteers so there are still two webinar left open in case you are interested in being a
curator: be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the presentation and debate of the
outcome document, to have further feedback. We can print copies of the document to present
them at the IGF but the goal is to use the outcome doc as a working document that could be
updated in the future and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3@listas.altermundi.net<mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
--
Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD
Local Access Policy and Regulation Coordinator
Association for Progressive Communications
https://www.apc.org/en/project/connecting-unconnected-supporting-community-…
Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
18 Jul
18 Jul
11:38 p.m.
The recording of the webinar can be found at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjYmOYZzWk Comments, questions, very
welcome.
Cheers... Steve
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:06, Carlos <carlos(a)apc.org> wrote:
Hi all, the first one of the webinars listed by Luca
is taking place now
here: https://www.youtube.com/user/PCMLPOXFORD in case you want to join.
Best,
carlos
On 2019/06/17 23:49, Luca Belli wrote:
Dear all,
Just a brief report on the excellent discussion we had at RightsCon.
The session was very good and we had very interesting exchanges and
comments from participants. The meeting we had after the session was really
excellent, we progressed a lot with regard to the type of document we want
to develop as DC3 annual outcome and, as a cherry on top, the meeting was
perfectly gender balanced.
First we agreed to avoid using the term “Model Policy” for our outcome but
to rather call it Policy Proposal to signify that we are not being
prescriptive but we are simply putting forward suggestions for proper CN
policies.
The target audience for the outcome are regulators and our aim should be
to offer useful information. In this spirit, we agreed to build a threefold
outcome document, including
1) A brief introductory session on CNs and their core elements. For
this purpose, we could utilise a brief 2-page text that Steve and Carlos
prepared for WSIS.
2) The CN Policy Proposal that should be reworked including an
introduction explaining that the aim of the proposal is to offer a set of
core (and non-exhaustive) elements as policy suggestions to regulators
willing to consider CNs and that such elements should ALWAYS be discussed
as a first step with local CN representatives, to understand the
specificities of such elements in the local context and obtain feedback on
the proposed elements, etc
3) A final part calling for further research in specific areas, while
already referencing existing literature and good practices that should be
considered by regulators
We identified 4 macro areas that we could explore in 4 webinars over the
next months, ahead of the IGF, so that we can consolidate them into the
final section of the outcome document:
- Access to infrastructure including spectrum
- Licensing, fees and compliance
- Taxation and funding
- Fundamental rights
To facilitate the webinar, Kira has agreed to utilise her podcast
organising a series of 4 webinars dedicated to the abovementioned areas (to
be called “Rights to the network” or something along these lines). Steve
and I have volunteered to be the curators of the first and last webinar
respectively. I have not noted in my notes other volunteers so there are
still two webinar left open in case you are interested in being a curator:
be my guests!
The DC3 session will be therefore largely dedicated to the presentation
and debate of the outcome document, to have further feedback. We can print
copies of the document to present them at the IGF but the goal is to use
the outcome doc as a working document that could be updated in the future
and is not cast in stone
All comments are more than welcome!
All the best
Luca
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20 Jul
20 Jul
4:45 a.m.
El Jue, 18 de Julio de 2019, 6:38 pm, Steve Song escribió:
The recording of the webinar can be found at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjYmOYZzWk Comments, questions, very
welcome.
Cheers... Steve
Thank you very much Steve. Great information. I listened to it from start
to end. I hope my comments below are useful to you and others.
I agree that corporate telcos would be better off if they worked with
community networks for them to cover the areas of less interest to them.
Perhaps regulators could make it mandatory that big telcos offer service
to these areas before giving service to the big money areas. They could
even be allowed to do it via community networks. So that helps the
community networks have a greater leverage and the big telcos too.
On the other hand, I think the network is not the only part that should be
owned by the community. The data also should. It would be great to post
this video on a free-er network. The best would be to make small 2 minute
videos explaining the several concepts. (Younger people do not have the
patience we have to watch 90 minutes of one topic.) The license, of
course, would be nice to have a libre license (so no CC-By-ND or
CC-By-ND).
Another topic of interest would be the use of Free Space Optical
Communications (FSO - not LiFi) for community networking. An example would
be http://ronja.twibright.net (if it could be constructed with currently
purchasable parts).
I do not think building a GSM network is progress in telecommunications
because there is currently only nonlibre drivers for GSM radio; not in GSM
3 or LTE or GSM 5. So the communication is not in control of the users.
It is control of the vendors. It would be better to build a TCP/IP network
with realtime video and audio communication prioritization. Then it would
not be controlled by vendors and serve better the communication needs of
communities.
Greetings.
Quiliro
22 Jul
22 Jul
2:37 p.m.
Hi Quiliro,
Thank you for taking the time to watch AND to comment! Really appreciated.
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 01:45, <quiliro(a)riseup.net> wrote:
El Jue, 18 de Julio de 2019, 6:38 pm, Steve Song
escribió:
I think we are only on the tip of the iceberg as to frameworks we might
come up with to enable access to spectrum in rural areas. For instance,
the UK regulator OFCOM, has designed their next spectrum auction for the
700MHz band in such a way that operators can receive discounts or perhaps
rebates is a better word on the fees paid at auction for spectrum based on
their coverage of areas designated at unserved or underserved by the
regulator, up to a maximum discount. More info on this at
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/12/ofcom-consult-on-uk-mobile-sp…
That's a good idea. A great idea would be to allow the operators the same
discounts on their auction fees based on coverage but allow community
networks to offer coverage in un/underserved areas. That way the operators
have a real incentive to partner with community networks.
Forcing operators to cover rural un/underserved regions before they cover
more lucrative urban areas is a tough sell as operators need to be seen by
investors as generating income as soon as possible from the millions of
dollars they spend on spectrum. I think there are some countries that have
tried this with mixed success. I'll dig up some more info on this.
The recording of the webinar can be found at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjYmOYZzWk Comments, questions, very
welcome.
Cheers... Steve
Thank you very much Steve. Great information. I listened to it from start
to end. I hope my comments below are useful to you and others.
I agree that corporate telcos would be better off if they worked with
community networks for them to cover the areas of less interest to them.
Perhaps regulators could make it mandatory that big telcos offer service
to these areas before giving service to the big money areas. They could
even be allowed to do it via community networks. So that helps the
community networks have a greater leverage and the big telcos too.
On the other hand, I think the network is not the only
part that should be
owned by the community. The data also should. It would be great to post
this video on a free-er network. The best would be to make small 2 minute
videos explaining the several concepts. (Younger people do not have the
patience we have to watch 90 minutes of one topic.) The license, of
course, would be nice to have a libre license (so no CC-By-ND or
CC-By-ND).
Totally agree with the idea of making shorter explainer videos. 90 minutes
is a long time for a feature film :-) Perhaps a Q&A approach might work
i.e. two minute video and/or animation answers to the most commonly asked
or most challenging questions about community networks. Would be very
happy to brainstorm further on this.
As to local ownership of data and the use of tools to facilitate local
sharing using open source tools, I agree with you in principal and I also
agree it is a desirable destination to work towards but at the same time I
find it is hard to argue with the ease-of-use and reach of platforms like
YouTube, especially being able to livecast and produce an archive of the
podcast that is easy to discover. I would like to see the growth of
platform cooperatives that provide an alternative at scale.
Another topic of interest would be the use of Free
Space Optical
Communications (FSO - not LiFi) for community networking. An example would
be http://ronja.twibright.net (if it could be constructed with currently
purchasable parts).
Absolutely. Koruza (http://www.koruza.net/) is another example. I have to
say I am amazed (and slightly incredulous of) by the range claims (1.4km
and more) of Ronja for free space optics but perhaps I need to learn more.
http://ronja.twibright.com/
I do not think building a GSM network is progress in
telecommunications
because there is currently only nonlibre drivers for GSM radio; not in GSM
3 or LTE or GSM 5. So the communication is not in control of the users.
It is control of the vendors. It would be better to build a TCP/IP network
with realtime video and audio communication prioritization. Then it would
not be controlled by vendors and serve better the communication needs of
communities.
I think the virtue of being able to reach people on the handsets they
already have can trump the value of having an open-down-to-the-radio
network. There is a balance to be struck but I don't think we have to
agree exactly where it is in order to make common cause on community
networks.
Many thanks again for your thoughtful comments!
Cheers... Steve
Greetings.
Quiliro
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