Re: [LibreRouter] Access to open hardware?

Hi Bruno, just to our hackaday page you will find full instructions there - https://hackaday.io/project/10453-meshpoint-opensource-wifi-for-crisis-situ… Or just go to our Nodewatcher cloud server, create new account and create few nodes and play around :) Are CPE210 V1 devices still available in Brazil? Cheers, Valent. On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:39 PM, bruno vianna <bruno(a)pobox.com> wrote: > Hi Valent > > Sorry to also hijack the list subject, but I'm also curious about > meshpoint--- > > - What firmware do you use for the devices? Is it available anywhere? I > couldn't find no reference. > - In your network, do you run local services? Do you use a local server or > autodiscovery applications? > > We have also been using the CPE-210 in our community networks in Brazil. > It's a great device for a very good price. > > > Best regards > Bruno > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Valent Turkovic <valent(a)otvorenamreza.org> > wrote: >> >> Hi Fred, >> first I'm not part of Librerouter team so probably anyone from the >> team will give you a more detailed answer. >> >> My project is called MeshPoint and we are working exactly to solve >> part of your problems - to rebuild quickly failed internet >> infrastructure. You can check us out at www.meshpoint.me and on our >> hackaday page - >> >> https://hackaday.io/project/10453-meshpoint-wifi-router-for-humanitarian-cr… >> >> But currently neither Librerouter or MeshPoint are ready to be send in >> large numbers anywhere. But if you can get some cooperation from your >> goverment and if they are interested in doing a pilot project to >> research how would MeshPoint fit in their disaster recovery program >> please don't hesitate to contact me. I would love to help you. >> >> Cheers, >> Valent. >> >> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:45 PM, fred <support(a)qo-op.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Your project is somehow what I am looking for to build back Internet >> > access in Dominica (Green Carribean West Indies island). >> > How could I get more details and find hardware to bring there? >> > >> > I am also willing to integrate, recharge station and opens source >> > network services to help rebuild phone (asterisk), social (mastodon), >> > market (gchange) and free money system (duniter) for full operation... >> > >> > I have made prototypes with RaspberryPi, hacked TPLink router but any >> > help is welcome to build a proposal to Dominica Government... >> > >> > Thanks >> > Fred - http://MadeInZion.org >> > >> > PS: Do you know http://redport.cl/ >> > >> > Le 06/11/2017 à 00:29, Valent Turkovic a écrit : >> >> Thanks Nicolas, >> >> we did a lot of work in last two years. >> >> >> >> We have deployed wifi network in refugee camp that rotated 4000 people >> >> each 24h and in 4 months we served over 500,000 people with wifi. Even >> >> getting a licence to enter a refugee camp from ministry of internal >> >> affairs was hard enough, then we has only 72h to build and deploy >> >> hotspots on light poles that has power only during the night. So in >> >> two days without almost no sleep we build charging and monitoring >> >> system with batteries under 100€ that worked from first try. And it >> >> worked for months in harsh outdoor environment. >> >> And on the third day we had all of our hotspots deplyed, thanks to lot >> >> of people in our local hackerspace that helped and thanks to awesome >> >> Nodewatcher system that enabled us to configure all devices and build >> >> wifi mesh network in just few hours. >> >> >> >> I hired professional mountain climber to teach me and help me take all >> >> these devices up to 30m high poles and not die while doing it :) I >> >> didn't want to risk any of the other guys from our hackerspace, this >> >> was my duty to do on my own. >> >> >> >> What I saw when working with biggest NGOs in the field that none of >> >> them are ready for rebuilding internet infrastructure when it goes >> >> down, and we have the technology that can be used to rebuild it much, >> >> much faster, cheaper and the most importantly at scale! >> >> >> >> All other solutions don't scale and are insanely much more expensive. >> >> I have reseached this field very thoroughly and have talked with all >> >> stake holders, like Disaster Tech Lab, communication sans frontières, >> >> Vodafon, Unicef, Red Cross, Green peace and lots and lots of small >> >> NGOs. And none of then have a solution that scales and is affordable. >> >> >> >> After the refugee crisis has passed we continued working on MeshPoint. >> >> We also build 3 generation of prototypes, did who knows how much case >> >> designs and tested lots of boards and routers until we our current >> >> version. >> >> >> >> Our current version works amazingly, to he honest much better that I >> >> expected it to work! This is mostly due to modular design which >> >> offloads traffic to three SoC so even if one if overloaded we still >> >> have two other ones. Also using sector antennas makes a huuuge >> >> difference because you have spatial isolation which increases number >> >> of users at least 3 fold. Also for conserving power we can always turn >> >> off any board if necessary. >> >> >> >> So we did our first controlled real world test this summer - and we >> >> got up to 150 clients connected per radio, so that is total of 450 >> >> clients per MeshPoint! We were blown away and after we got these >> >> results. Previously our best case predictions were up to 300 clients. >> >> But great work that Dave Taht, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen and others did >> >> on bufferbloat and make-wifi-faster project payed off huge for us! We >> >> are eternally grateful for their work and all other OpenWrt and Lede >> >> developers. >> >> >> >> Our latest tests are deploying tethered drones to establish long range >> >> wifi link (check out our Hackaday page for video). We are also testing >> >> big tethered balloons filled with helium also for establishing long >> >> range wifi links. >> >> >> >> We are now in last stages of testing open source mppt solar charger >> >> for LiFePO4 batteries, this will be most efficient mppt solar charger, >> >> not most budget sensitive, but definitely most efficient. I saw that >> >> Electra also designed mppt solar charger, and I'm interested to >> >> compare them both if we manage to get some more people to join us. >> >> >> >> Also we are also currently building is solar and battery powered >> >> sensors that can be used to detect forest fires. >> >> >> >> If your boards are available only to developers are there any plans to >> >> release schematics under some open source licence? We have experienced >> >> electronics people and we can at least try to build few on our own and >> >> share our experience and even help make it better. How many layers >> >> does your board use? Four or more? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Valent. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Nicolas Pace <nico(a)libre.ws> wrote: >> >>> Hi Valent, >> >>> >> >>> Amazing you have contacted us before us contacted you! (I have this on >> >>> my todo list for a while!) >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, 2017-10-31 at 03:15 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> >>>> Hi good people of Librerouter, >> >>>> I'm founder of MeshPoint - humanitarian open source wifi router >> >>>> (www.meshpoint.me). >> >>> >> >>> Your project is very interesting, I like the industrial design you did >> >>> for your project. >> >>>> My team and I would be very interested in testing your pcb and then >> >>>> seeing if it makes sense for next version of MeshPoint. Currently we >> >>>> use pcb radio boards from TP-LINK CPE210 devices. >> >>> >> >>> Great! >> >>> LibreRouter will do a big difference on the user experience in >> >>> comparison to those devices, in particular because of the triple-radio >> >>> design (those are just one radio). >> >>> >> >>> Are you already using LibreMesh on the CPE210? >> >>> >> >>>> We are also looking into making our own PCB boards, so is makes sense >> >>>> to cooperate on this. >> >>> >> >>> For sure! We have already gone through the process, so we can >> >>> collaborate on the same design to make it better! >> >>> >> >>>> Under which open hardware licence have you released LibreRouter? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Are pcb schematics publicly available? >> >>> >> >>> Not yet, but not because of lack of interest... mainly time. >> >>> For sure will be before we make it available to the public. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Does Librerouter pcb support POE in and POE passtrough? >> >>> >> >>> Based on the spec, it supports POE and POE passthrough. >> >>> >> >>> https://librerouter.org/media/documents/librerouter_specifications_v6.p >> >>> df >> >>> >> >>>> Is it possible to buy or borrow few prototype boards for testing? >> >>> >> >>> The amount of prototypes we manufactured was very small, and are >> >>> already commited for the development process. >> >>> >> >>> Units will be available very soon. >> >>> >> >>> If you register on the contact form we will let you know as soon as it >> >>> is available: https://librerouter.org/contact/ >> >>> Also would be interesting to explore collaborations. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> LibreRouter mailing list >> >>> LibreRouter(a)listas.librerouter.org >> >>> https://listas.librerouter.org/mailman/listinfo/librerouter >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> LibreRouter mailing list >> >> LibreRouter(a)listas.librerouter.org >> >> https://listas.librerouter.org/mailman/listinfo/librerouter >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > LibreRouter mailing list >> > LibreRouter(a)listas.librerouter.org >> > https://listas.librerouter.org/mailman/listinfo/librerouter >> _______________________________________________ >> LibreRouter mailing list >> LibreRouter(a)listas.librerouter.org >> https://listas.librerouter.org/mailman/listinfo/librerouter > > > > > -- > > bruno(a)pobox.com ▀─█▄██▄▀▄ > http://brunovianna.net ─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄ > skype: randomico▀─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄▌██─█▌█▌ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LibreRouter mailing list > LibreRouter(a)listas.librerouter.org > https://listas.librerouter.org/mailman/listinfo/librerouter >