23 Sep
2019
23 Sep
'19
4:44 p.m.
Interesting question about spectrum as an asset after my Ofcom post. It is an asset to the
extent we accept physical metaphors. I compare it to Taxi medallions that were assets
until Uber. Then we find out that the whole medallion market was propped up by unsavory
characters.
I spent some time in the world of finance and one of the big ideas has been the inventions
of “instruments” or financial assets such as bags full of mortgages (don’t look inside the
bag!). Even the land itself is not usable as collateral are options on use that might be.
The casino thing was one example with its own host of problems.
What happens to spectrum-secured loans when we move past it?
Bob Frankston
<https://Frankston.com> https://Frankston.com
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Triggs <mariel(a)muralnet.org>rg>; Matthew Rantanen <mrantanen(a)sctdv.net>
Subject: Re: [DC3] Investment on community fiber from Ethical bank
Hi Leandro –
I never responded to this note.
A few observations and cc’ing Matt Rantanen and Mariel Triggs (both are working with/on
tribal CN solutions).
Spectrum is considered by some funders as an “asset” (even where the community may be a
“steward” vs “direct owner” of the spectrum).
Loans can be secured when a community has a spectrum allocation.
On land as an asset: For many/most US tribal communities, tribal land is sovereign and
can not be put up as collateral for loans.
Matt/Mariel – is there more re what is bankable from your experience?
Best,
Jane
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Date: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 6:44 PM
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net
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Subject: Re: [DC3] Investment on community fiber from Ethical bank
Thanks, (and a request for more cases below if you read the details)
To me it is a great proof of the level of maturity a CN can achieve. The offer document is
a perfect example of how a community infrastructure can be attractive not only to the
local beneficiaries, but also to anyone attracted by social impact and ethical investment.
The lesson to me is just how encouraging it is to see that there are ways that work in the
really hard case of successful ethical investment.
What works for cooperative fibre there, works similarly in guifi.net with the XAFOGAR
project with public/private investment, (page 99
<https://giswatch.org/sites/default/files/giswatch18_web_0.pdf> ), can work too for
IXPs, distributed IXPs like what guifi.net or REMIX
<https://mf208.host.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/pdf/gaia16_remix.pdf> (Scotland) does, or
what other cooperative fiber networks can do.
Do you know of any other "bankable" network infrastructure? (including access,
distributed IXPs, open-access wholesale networks).
This is in the context of these slides
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/slides-105-gaia-bcp-on-cooperative-fibre-networks-00>
(slides 6, 7 show different models and layering of optical networks), prepared for IETF
105 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-gaia-05> but
saved to the next IETF 106 due to lack of time in a very interesting session
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/materials/agenda-105-gaia-05> chaired by
Jane and me in Toronto. If you give me examples I can add them to the collection for a WIP
document.
In fact, I am writing this from home with my guifi.net IP address, one of the cases in
these slides, a 600 Mbps optical network connection using the Telefonica NEBA
(VULA/Bitstream) wholesale service to reach the guifi.net exchange in Barcelona, operated
by eXO.cat, the Barcelona volunteer association as part of guifi.net.
All the best, Leandro.
On 30/07/2019 11:33, Jane Coffin wrote:
Leandro -
Thank you very much.
Critical to use this example and work with investors moving forward for CNs and small
local access nets.
Jane
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On 7/30/19, 3:01 AM,
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"dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of Leandro Navarro"
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<dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of leandro(a)pangea.org> wrote:
From Triodos, a pioneer in ethical banking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triodos_Bank
They offered a round of investment open to the public in the B4RN rural
community fibre. You can see they reached 102% of the target investment
(3 Million GBP) in this public call:
https://www.triodoscrowdfunding.co.uk/invest/broadband-for-the-rural-north
In the offer document you can see the description of the initiative for
potential investors. They offer 4.5% interest rate for an investment in
7 year term. The call it seems is still open for another month but
oriented to UK residents. A proof that CN proposals can be both feasible
and sustainable in financial (bankable) and local impact.
All the best, Leandro.
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