Related to CN’s and Free or Low Cost WiFi, the various approaches in India by Goog, MSFT
and FB are interesting. Google, as you point out is installing WiFi on rail line fiber.
Good for many, very many travelers.
FB’s free service hasn’t faired as well since it more or less followed the AOL model of
walled garden.
Microsoft’s depends on use of TVWS for distribution from fiber end points/interconnect
points at regional gov’t offices. Then for TVWS as backhaul to extend into an unbelievable
number of villages as WiFi clusters
<https://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/microsoft-to-bring-low-cost-broadband-to-half-a-million-villages-in-india-745424>
This is still pending gov’t spectrum approvals.
Regards,
Don Means
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Hi Bob and Peter.
Just to clarify. Obviously I was NOT suggesting that Free WiFi and CNs are the same
ting...
That is precisely the resaon why I was suggesting to ? potentially ? include a
representative from Google India in part 3 of the session, dedicated to exploring
potential interactions/partnerships with different stakeholders
To be even more explicit, what I had in my mind was the posibility to consider Google
Free WiFi (or other free wifi initiatives) as a potential source of connectivity for CNs?
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I see it as not so much free vs. community as whether there is a sustainable model rather
than one dependent upon a benevolent donor. A donor can play a role in establishing in
idea if there is a path towards communities funding their connectivity be the community
very local or national. The other issue is whether there is spotty coverage or a path for
assuming what I?m calling Ambient Connectivity everywhere. Finally is this infrastructure
or does one have to login which is what I call web-fi and not full connectivity.
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Hard no on google. Free wifi and community networks are not the same thing
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Hi all,
A further issue we should start discussing is the planning of the DC3 session.
As DC3 has continuously produced outputs, we have a session slot by default but we should
send a draft session proposal by 29 June.
As discussed at
Rightscon<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_…54>,
the DC3 session could have a threefold structure featuring the following parts:
1. presentation of (at least some of) the initiatives featured in the 2018 DC3
Report (that should be the "CN Manual" mentioned in my previous email)
2. discussion with people in their early phase of CN development to understand the
challenges they are facing
3. discussion with potential partners
FYI, the 90 minutes time slot has been reestablished (thanks to all those who commented
during the IGF stocktaking consultation requesting restauration of the 90 min slot!!).
The session should be as much as possible, multistakeholder, gender balanced and
geographically diverse.
I propose to have up to 3 speakers in part 1; 2 for part 2; and 2 (or maybe 3) in part
3.
The speakers for part 1 will be chosen amongst the contributors of the CN Manual. If
anyone is already sure to submit a contribution for the CN manual, please send a message
(on-list or a PM) so that I can include your name in the DRAFT session description.
As regards part 2, Nico Pace offered to help liaise with people currently developing CNs
and facing challenges. Nico can you suggest some names?
As regards part 3, I was thinking that IFLA could be good (I am CCing Donna) and perhaps
one Intergovernmental org that is dealing with CNs e.g. CITEL or African Union.
Lastly, after having read what Google India is doing, providing Free WiFi at Indian train
stations, I have started wondering if it could also be a potential partner to be included
in the discussion
https://qz.com/1300522/googles-free-wifi-at-railway-stations-is-a-way-of-li…
What do you think?
Best
Luca
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