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AirJaldi would be excellent.
Do you know if they plan to attend the IGF?
If AirJaldi's speaker was a woman would be even better (for gender balance°)
Best
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Coffin [coffin(a)isoc.org]
Enviado: sábado, 23 de junho de 2018 12:29
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
Assunto: Re: [DC3] RES: RES: RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14
Hi All –
AirJaldi is a commercial CN, operating in India.
They may be an option for another segment.
The other aspect of this is that some companies – equipment manufacturers and commercial
ISPs are working on some rural solutions. They are possible future partners (back-haul
and equipment).
We can explore this as well.
Jane
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Date: Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 10:20 AM
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: [DC3] RES: RES: RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14
I totally agree that private sector does not equal to big corporations.
However, I am not sure that including someone from the Guifi.net ecosystem would be the
most appropriate choice if the business speaker is to be included in part 3 of the
session, dedicated to new potential partnerships (as it is already a partner)...
But, of course, nothing impedes us from including the business speaker in the other
segments of the session. In this case, probably the best would be to have the speaker from
the Guifi.net ecosystem in the first segment, speaking about good practices for
development of services in CNs.
Just one question: would this be an app provider that is independent from Guifi.net (e.g.
a start-up that has been created thanks to Guifi.net) or something else?
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Nicolás Echániz [nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net]
Enviado: sexta-feira, 22 de junho de 2018 16:52
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
Assunto: Re: [DC3] RES: RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14
Maybe people from the guifi.net ecosystem can fill the comercial stakeholder seat.
Leandro, Roger, do you think people doing business within the network as a commons could
be interested in participating?
cheers,
Nico
ps: comercial doesn't mean it needs to be a big corporation.
On June 22, 2018 4:36:53 PM GMT-03:00, Luca Belli <luca.belli(a)fgv.br> wrote:
Just another element of clarification
As stated in my inicial email, the IGF Secretariat requests that the session should be
multistakeholder.
This means we should have at least one private-sector repressnetative and this is
precisely why I thought about Google India. But that was a mere suggestion and the last
thing I would like to do is raising any sensitivities :)
Another option to have a – potential partner – representing private sector would be Open
Fiber, which is an Italian wholesale connectivity provider whose model is very intersting
and very compatible with CNs development. They have no vertical integration with content
and app and only provide wholesale bandwith to both urban and rural areas.
Here an article to know more (unfortunately only in Italian but you can translate it with
you favourite online translator :))
https://assoprovider.it/perche-open-fiber-modello-wholesale-only-e-5g-sono-…
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Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Assunto: [DC3] RES: DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14
Hi Bob and Peter.
Just to clarify. Obviously I was NOT suggesting that Free WiFi and CNs are the same
ting...
That is precisely the resaon why I was suggesting to – potentially – include a
representative from Google India in part 3 of the session, dedicated to exploring
potential interactions/partnerships with different stakeholders
To be even more explicit, what I had in my mind was the posibility to consider Google Free
WiFi (or other free wifi initiatives) as a potential source of connectivity for CNs…
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Assunto: Re: [DC3] DC3 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 14
I see it as not so much free vs. community as whether there is a sustainable model rather
than one dependent upon a benevolent donor. A donor can play a role in establishing in
idea if there is a path towards communities funding their connectivity be the community
very local or national. The other issue is whether there is spotty coverage or a path for
assuming what I’m calling Ambient Connectivity everywhere. Finally is this infrastructure
or does one have to login which is what I call web-fi and not full connectivity.
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Hard no on google. Free wifi and community networks are not the same thing
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Hi all,
A further issue we should start discussing is the planning of the DC3 session.
As DC3 has continuously produced outputs, we have a session slot by default but we should
send a draft session proposal by 29 June.
As discussed at
Rightscon<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_…54>,
the DC3 session could have a threefold structure featuring the following parts:
1. presentation of (at least some of) the initiatives featured in the 2018 DC3
Report (that should be the "CN Manual" mentioned in my previous email)
2. discussion with people in their early phase of CN development to understand the
challenges they are facing
3. discussion with potential partners
FYI, the 90 minutes time slot has been reestablished (thanks to all those who commented
during the IGF stocktaking consultation requesting restauration of the 90 min slot!!).
The session should be as much as possible, multistakeholder, gender balanced and
geographically diverse.
I propose to have up to 3 speakers in part 1; 2 for part 2; and 2 (or maybe 3) in part 3.
The speakers for part 1 will be chosen amongst the contributors of the CN Manual. If
anyone is already sure to submit a contribution for the CN manual, please send a message
(on-list or a PM) so that I can include your name in the DRAFT session description.
As regards part 2, Nico Pace offered to help liaise with people currently developing CNs
and facing challenges. Nico can you suggest some names?
As regards part 3, I was thinking that IFLA could be good (I am CCing Donna) and perhaps
one Intergovernmental org that is dealing with CNs e.g. CITEL or African Union.
Lastly, after having read what Google India is doing, providing Free WiFi at Indian train
stations, I have started wondering if it could also be a potential partner to be included
in the discussion
https://qz.com/1300522/googles-free-wifi-at-railway-stations-is-a-way-of-li…
What do you think?
Best
Luca
[FGV Direito Rio]
Luca Belli, PhD
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