You're absolutely right, and it reflects the idea that the Internet is
built and shaped in the image we create. So, physics notwithstanding, it's
worth thinking of alternatives (which also may be better for communities,
less resource intensive, more environmentally friendly, provide better
service, and be less expensive).
Good luck Bob, and I'm looking very forward to talking to you more in
person at the next event.
-Michael
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Bob Frankston <
Bob19-0501(a)bobf.frankston.com> wrote:
Thanks. It is a challenge to get people to think
outside the idea of the
Internet as something that flows through pipes. I appreciate any
suggestions into how to better explain the concepts. I’m working on any
essay now that positions the Internet as byproduct of a fundamental
conceptual shift (or, if you wish, paradigm)
*From:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.
altermundi.net] *On Behalf Of *Michael Oghia
*Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2017 10:02
*To:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <
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*Subject:* Re: [DC3] IEEE/World Bank event
I really liked your post, Bob, specifically this line:
"We’re accustomed to thinking of networking as a service and networks as
physical things like railroads with well-defined tracks. The Internet is
more like the road system that emerges from the way we use any path
available. We aren’t even confined to roads thanks to our ability to buy
our own off-road vehicles. There is no physical network as such but rather
disparate transports for raw packets which make no promises other than a
best effort to transport packets."
Thanks for sharing!
Best,
-Michael
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Bob Frankston <
Bob19-0501(a)bobf.frankston.com> wrote:
I’m active with the IEEE (board of governors of the consumer electronics
society) but the organization is struggling to get past it’s hardware
orientation. It is very difficult to get the traditional players to think
of the Internet as anything but another telecommunications service. I
failed with this IEEE initiative. You can get a sense of this in the
enthusiasm for 5G (
http://spectrum.ieee.org/video/telecom/wireless/
everything-you-need-to-know-about-5g) vs what I wrote after CES (
http://rmf.vc/5GATSC).
The Internet as a byproduct of software and as infrastructure is a very
different framing. It would be good if the IMF could understand that and if
you have suggestions for how to be heard I’m open to suggestions.
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altermundi.net] *On Behalf Of *Judith Hellerstein
*Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 09:42
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*Subject:* Re: [DC3] IEEE/World Bank event
HI Bob,
Historically the IEEE event is held one day before the Fall/spring World
Bank/IMF meetings since the meetings are April 21-23 that leads me to think
the IEEE meeting is on April 20, but best is to ask the IEEE.
It is also likely that the Fall meeting will be on October 12 since the
Fall meetings are on October 13-15 2017
Best,
Judith
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On 2/17/2017 9:31 AM, dc3(a)bob.ma wrote:
April 20? I need to learn more ASAP because I was about to sign up for an
event in California April 19-21st that has a deadline of today. But from
my experience these events are set pieces rather than places to effect real
change. And given the current policy climate …
I see some of the usual suspects on the list from last year – is it a good
opportunity for effective hall conversations? It's really about the
networking and conversations rather than the presentations. That's what
made IGF so valuable – meeting the others on this list.
I have toyed with working with ISOC on organizing a workshop on
connectivity as infrastructure but not sure if I can do any better. Having
real deployments speaks a lot louder.
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altermundi.net <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net>] *On Behalf Of *Judith
Hellerstein
*Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 07:48
*To:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
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*Subject:* Re: [DC3] IEEE/World Bank event
Hi Michael,
This email was for last years event. The IEEE and the world bank hold this
event twice a year timed with the fall and spring world bank/imf meetings.
This year the meetings are April 20. I do not think the announcement is out
yet about the April meeting. I will be attending. I have attended the two
previous events
Best,
Judith
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On Feb 17, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Michael Oghia <mike.oghia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Is anyone planning on attending this (including you Bob)? It might be a
good networking/outreach activity:
IEEE, in conjunction with the World Bank, will be holding the Global
Connect Stakeholders: Advancing Solutions event in Washington, DC, on 13-14
April
http://internetinitiative.ieee.org/events/conferences/
global-connect-stakeholders-advancing-solutions
Best,
-Michael
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