16 Aug
2018
16 Aug
'18
5:46 p.m.
Dear Jane,
Thank you for the informative messages and links. DEF has done considerable
work in the area of Community Networks, and several networks such as the
one that Sarbani has written about exist in India. However there are issues
related to the scale and scope of operation, which revolve around the
regulatory policies that make it a little difficult to create and operate
networks.
If I understood well, the NY Mesh network has a supernode from the IXP and
its bandwidth comes from the IXP. I am copying this thread to Osama
Manzar of DEF to ask if there are examples of Community Networks in India
that do not depend on agreements with Telecom Operators / telecom related
ISPs, which may not wholeheartedly support Community Networks beyond the
notion of small rural networks.
There are a few problems that need to be addressed, and a different
connectivity model may be required together with ample support from the
Telecom ministry for the spread of community networks in India.
Thank you.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:01 PM Jane Coffin <coffin(a)isoc.org> wrote:
Apologies - I hit send before adding the links:
DEF: http://defindia.org/
Video on The Land of Zero Connect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq27X8CJLTM
Link to APC's Community Network Newsletter:
https://www.apc.org/en/project/local-access-networks-can-unconnected-connec…
ISOC's Community Network site:
https://www.internetsociety.org/issues/community-networks/
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On 8/16/18, 11:52 AM, "dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of
Jane Coffin" <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of
coffin(a)isoc.org> wrote:
To add - you will find a lot of interesting information here at the
DEF site:
See also this video about a remote area of India and lack of
connectivity and Community Networks coming in to help:
We often hear these arguments about "coverage". The issue is not just
the mobile network footprint (coverage area), but whether the services are
affordable, and if end-users have a choice. Community Networks are a
viable option in
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On 8/16/18, 11:27 AM, "dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of
Sarbani Banerjee Belur" <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net on behalf of
sarbanibelur(a)iitb.ac.in> wrote:
Hi Sivasubramanian,
Community networks does exist in India and it is a sustainable
initiative.
Gram Marg at IIT Bombay has set up one spanning 10 villages in
Palghar,
Maharashtra, Digital Empowerment Foundation has set up some as
well. There
are more going to be set up in this year and the next. These CNs
are set
up in locations that have no mobile connectivity and are usually in
remote, rural villages of India.
Local ISPs have come to the rescue and provide bandwidth in such
locations.
With regards,
Sarbani
--
Dr. Sarbani Banerjee Belur
Senior Project Research Scientist
Program Manager
Gram Marg: Rural Broadband Project
Department of Electrical Engineering
IIT Bombay
Powai
Mumbai 400076
Mob: +91 9867282979
+91 7045620077
Website: www.grammarg.in
Homepage: http://homepages.iitb.ac.in/~sarbanibelur/
Blog: sarbanibelur.blogspot.com
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In Chennai, India, I spoke to someone in an
educational
institution about
starting a Community Network. He argued that
access is no longer
a problem
as Telecom companies offer 3G and 4G services
everywhere. He
wouldn't
listen to arguments concerning the cost and
clever pricing
models of
access
that indiscernably amass huge sums by microscopic extraction,
wouldn't
listen to arguments about nominal and actual
bandwidth. He and
some
others
take the position that a case does not exist for Community
Networks here.
Happens to be an iconic opinion. It is a challenge to present
arguments,
articles such as this are of ample help.
Sivasubramanian M
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 5:20 PM Marco Zennaro <mzennaro(a)ictp.it>
wrote:
> Interesting news:
>
>
>
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ne5k5m/consumer-reports-broadban…
Cheers,
Marco
Marco Zennaro, PhD // Research Officer // T/ICT4D Lab // ICTP //
wireless.ictp.it
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