25 Jun
2018
25 Jun
'18
7:09 p.m.
Hi Leandro
This sounds very interesting. As stated in the first email and in the pad, deadline would
be 30 July
See pad here https://pad.codigosur.org/DRAFTcall_for_resources_DC3 and the email thead
"
Call for Resources 2018 Report (CN Manual)"
Would this be ok for you?
Best
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Enviado: segunda-feira, 25 de junho de 2018 12:30
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Assunto: Re: [DC3] RES: Planning the DC3 Session
A followup on this. With Roger Baig we're writing on sustainability/scalability (for
GISWATCH) and we have done an initial analysis on that for several local CN in several
regions inside guifi.net. We can expand it to other networks (outside guifi.net), even
compare to IXP and report there. Knowing the deadlines for any submission would help to
decide. Kind regards, Leandro.
On 25/6/18 16:37, Jane Coffin wrote:
Hi Luca/All –
See inline….
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Date: Friday, June 22, 2018 at 3:06 PM
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Subject: [DC3] RES: Planning the DC3 Session
Hi Jane,
Thanks for the comparison with IXPs that I think is very pertinent.
You raise very good points and, fo course it would be great to have the time to analyse
all in depth.
My only concern is that, although we have regained our 90-min slot, 90 min is still quite
limited…
It would be very good to feture in the Manual a brief part on “Gudelines for CN
evolution/sustainability/scalability” or something along this lines, if anyone is willing
to draft it (perhaps based on the IXP work promoted by ISOC?)
*We can take that on, but would clearly be working with APC/our CNSIG on that.
**Remind me of your deadlines?
Best,
jane
It would also be great to have a brief piece on sevices generated/fostered by the CN
ecosystem. I have analyses some case studies (Guifi.net, TIC-AC, NWNP and Quintanalivre)
in my contribution for last year’s DC3
report<http://bibliotecadigital.fgv.br/dspace/handle/10438/19924>. It would be great
if anyone (amogts the CN cited above? or someone else e.g. Toronto Mesh people who
apparently are developing their CN in parallel with P2P applications) could draft a short
contribution on how to facilitate app generativity.
I have just added to the call for resources, two bullet points on
CN scalability and sustainability
App and service generation
All the best
Luca
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[mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de Jane Coffin
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 22 de junho de 2018 04:50
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Assunto: Re: [DC3] Planning the DC3 Session
Hi Luca –
Some food for thought as I was not at Rights Con (sadly 😉).
CNs – from my experience – go through phases of development and phases of challenges.
In the IXP world (which is similar) we saw the:
-start-up phase (mostly volunteer and often non-profit and not yet charging for services
or ports/other)
-Intermediate phase – from start-up to more developed platform, membership base, and
management of IXP by volunteers which transition to charging annual fees or for services
at the IXP. Customer service switch from purely volunteer to hiring part-time staff/full
time after that (or in some cases still purely volunteer, but more organized or more
accustomed to what they are doing)– more members have generally joined as the value-add
(value) of the IXP was clear and members began to invest more time and business focus into
the IXP becoming more stable, more of a non-profit business, and more focus on customer
service from the sense that the platform needed to be stable as it was a boon to the
community. Member base is transitioning from pure ISP and a few content delivery
networks.
-more mature non-profit entity (business if you will) – generally not commercial, but a
business nonetheless – more professionalized as its member-base grows and diversifies and
maintenance and expectations are different when both the technical facilities and
management need to match expectations due to the value of the platform. Classic bottom-up
governance and a clear Internet player.
*there are challenges at all of these levels and I would suggest the same is likely the
case for CNs
For CNs – my guess is that we can chart development of a CN in a similar manner.
-“start-up”
-Intermediate non-profit that is relied up for its service and the team managing has more
experience, can troubleshoot faster, and is dedicated to customer service (or keeping the
network up)
-More developed/non-profit that has shifted into a different mind-set that may be more
network growth focused, business focused in order to make sure more gear can be purchased
and the platform is managed.
Do you want to limit the workshop to start-up, but consider identifying the other phases
in the compendium for future consideration?
Clearly there is going to be great info from all of the phases.
The development of CNs is of great interest. What I have not noted is the importance to
the community – social value and the value of the CN to local, regional, other authorities
and what the corollary impact on how one is able to advance reg/pol change.
Best,
Jane
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Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 2:19 PM
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
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Subject: [DC3] Planning the DC3 Session
Hi all,
A further issue we should start discussing is the planning of the DC3 session.
As DC3 has continuously produced outputs, we have a session slot by default but we should
send a draft session proposal by 29 June.
As discussed at
Rightscon<http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_…54>,
the DC3 session could have a threefold structure featuring the following parts:
1. presentation of (at least some of) the initiatives featured in the 2018 DC3 Report
(that should be the “CN Manual” mentioned in my previous email)
2. discussion with people in their early phase of CN development to understand the
challenges they are facing
3. discussion with potential partners
FYI, the 90 minutes time slot has been reestablished (thanks to all those who commented
during the IGF stocktaking consultation requesting restauration of the 90 min slot!!).
The session should be as much as possible, multistakeholder, gender balanced and
geographically diverse.
I propose to have up to 3 speakers in part 1; 2 for part 2; and 2 (or maybe 3) in part
3.
The speakers for part 1 will be chosen amongst the contributors of the CN Manual. If
anyone is already sure to submit a contribution for the CN manual, please send a message
(on-list or a PM) so that I can include your name in the DRAFT session description.
As regards part 2, Nico Pace offered to help liaise with people currently developing CNs
and facing challenges. Nico can you suggest some names?
As regards part 3, I was thinking that IFLA could be good (I am CCing Donna) and perhaps
one Intergovernmental org that is dealing with CNs e.g. CITEL or African Union.
Lastly, after having read what Google India is doing, providing Free WiFi at Indian train
stations, I have started wondering if it could also be a potential partner to be included
in the discussion
https://qz.com/1300522/googles-free-wifi-at-railway-stations-is-a-way-of-li…
What do you think?
Best
Luca
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Luca Belli, PhD
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