Dear Luca
The first draft declaration looks good. I will add DEF's definition of
community networks as well in the pad.
regards
Ritu
On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Federica Giovanella <federgi82(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
Dear All,
let me first of all introduce myself: as you can see, my name is
Federica. I work at the University of Trento (Italy) as a post-doc in law
and I am involved in the netCommons.eu project (together with Leandro
Navarro and many others).
I have been following this list for the last 5 months and I very much
like the idea of the Declaration.
I would only like to make two remarks:
- do we consider all the features contained in list under point 2) to be
equivalent? If so, I would specify it; otherwise it might seem that privacy
is not as important as open design (and I am not saying it should be
more/less important or equivalent. I am just asking :)
- the same applies to the list under point 3) that includes the rights and
freedoms of the participants in CNs. Here I would also make a small
modification: the very last part of point 3) says that CNs members have "*the
obligation to extend this set of rights to anyone according to these same
terms.*" I would state it more clearly, in a "stand-alone" sentence, as
to give to this obligation more importance. I believe that this is a key
feature of CNs: one should never believe that CNs are something that can be
only exploited without sharing his/her infrastructures, efforts and so on.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Federica
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*Da:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net <dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net>
per conto di dc3(a)bob.ma <dc3(a)bob.ma>
*Inviato:* venerdì 30 settembre 2016 19.48.04
*A:* 'Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity'
*Oggetto:* Re: [DC3] Declaration on Community Connectivity v.0
I thank Nicalas for raising the first square mile issue. It’s part of the
larger rethinking of connectivity as infrastructure rather than networks.
For the purposes of submitting a declaration I’m not too concerned because
there is only so much one can do in writing. Hence the value in a workshop.
The basic problem is that very words we use to talk about connectivity
implicitly that networks are like railroads and we depend on third parties
for rides. Hence all the effort to petition “them” for better treatment and
few restrictions on what we can do with their networks. Even when they are
“our” networks it is still a sense of ownership just with the “people’ as
gatekeepers. The focus on access is part of this.
The big idea of “best efforts” means we can composite individual efforts
without having a network as such. Like having roads and sidewalks to
facilitate mobility. It is important to realize that we are not limited to
using roads and sidewalks – we got around millennia before they existed.
They just facilitate movement and transport. The flip side is that they
don’t assure anything. Concepts like access and services are not part of
the infrastructure but rather way we use the common infrastructure.
What is important for empowerment is that anyone can contribute. Just as
important is that it is now “owned” by the community in the sense of the
ability to exclude but only in the sense of shared stewardship as when a
local board or government collects money and hires people to manage the
facilities. (Volunteering is a mechanism in lieu of cash).
One complicated factors is that today’s Internet protocols and
relationships are very much old-paradigm and whatever we do should coexist
just as a home network coexists with telecom – we just buy a path through
it. Calling that path “access” is valid but misleading.
Again, this is a lot to unpack in email and I’ve said much of this before
so ….
*From:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.
altermundi.net] *On Behalf Of *Luca Belli
*Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 08:53
*To:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <
dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
*Subject:* [DC3] Declaration on Community Connectivity v.0
Hi all,
I have tried to consolidate the ideas put forward in this list regarding a
Declaration to be presented at the IGF.
I have added the draft to the pad created by Nico to collect our ideas
https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration
You can also find this “Draft Zero” in attachment.
Please, do not hesitate to share your comments on the draft or to modify
the text using the pad.
I suggest we submit this first draft to the IGF Secretariat, to signify
that we want it to be discussed during the IGF Main Session on Dynamic
Coalitions (see the Secretariat’s email below). Then, we will have the next
month to discuss and modify/refine the text of the Declaration and submit a
second draft by 1 November (see email below). Lastly, we can discuss the
Declaration at our pre-IGF event, on 5 December. What do you think?
Please share your thoughts on this by *15 October*, so that we have time
to elaborate a second draft and discuss it on the list.
All the best
Luca
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From: *Eleonora Anna MAZZUCCHI* <EMAZZUCCHI(a)unog.ch>
Date: 5 September 2016 at 20:33
Subject: [DC3] IGF 2016 Main Session: Papers from DCs
To: dc(a)intgovforum.org
Cc: Markus Kummer <kummer.markus(a)gmail.com>om>, Avri Doria <avri(a)acm.org>
Dear All,
Thank you for continuing to contribute to the planning for Dynamic
Coalitions' main session at IGF 2016!
With apologies for cross-posting (!), as we move closer to the meeting
and begin to refine the content of the session, all DCs should kindly note
the *requirement to produce individual substantive papers. *As agreed
during DC Coordination meetings, submission of the paper will be necessary
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draft is *30 September 2016.*
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together with any other documents pertaining to main session planning.
Please do not hesitate to reach out to the Secretariat for any questions
or feedback on this! We would be happy to help.
Very best,
Eleonora
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