Dear Luca, thank you very much for all you work on the declaration and the report. The declaration does not incorporate the concern I raised about the first sentence of the preamble ( "Over three billion people do not have access to communication infrastructure") being a potential source of discrediting the whole declaration as it is not accurate. While there is common agreement that there are only 3 billion people connected to (using) the Internet, that does not mean that they do not have access to communications. For instance, the ITU shows that coverage for both GSM and 3G networks is way beyond that number [1]. Other reasons may explain this gap, affordability, lack of relevant content, confidence/skills, etc, but not lack of access. Thus, I propose, after the input from John Dada in the same email thread, to rephrase that sentence to: "Over four billion people may remain unconnected to the Internet, including around a billion who do not have access to basic telephony services".

Dear Luca, thank you very much for all you work on the declaration and the report. The declaration does not incorporate the concern I raised about the first sentence of the preamble ( "Over three billion people do not have access to communication infrastructure") being a potential source of discrediting the whole declaration as it is not accurate. While there is common agreement that there are only 3 billion people connected to (using) the Internet, that does not mean that they do not have access to communications. For instance, the ITU shows that coverage for both GSM and 3G networks is way beyond that number [1]. Other reasons may explain this gap, affordability, lack of relevant content, confidence/skills, etc, but not lack of access. Thus, I propose, after the input from John Dada in the same email thread, to rephrase that sentence to: "Over four billion people may remain unconnected to the Internet, including around a billion who do not have access to basic telephony services". Regards, carlos [1] http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/facts/default.aspx <http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/facts/default.aspx> On 3 November 2016 at 23:05, Luca Belli &lt;luca.belli(a)fgv.br <mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br>> wrote: Hi all, Here is the v.3.0 of the Declaration https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration <https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration> I think we have a very good text that we can submit to the IGF Secretariat as a DC3 outcome, together with the DC3 Report (or at least the Outline of the Report, in light of the fact that the Report is 172-page long) You can find the Outline of the Report here https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/DC3_Report_Outline <https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/DC3_Report_Outline> FYI, free hard-copies of the report will be distributed at the DC3 session (the printing and editing is sponsored by CTS/FGV). The Report will also be available online under Creative Commons License. Regarding the Declaration, although I was initially favourable to the use of square km rather than miles, some of you (particularly Bob) made some very good points on the usefulness of adopting/enhancing existing terminology. In this perspective, I think if could be wiser to speak about “first square mile” (see Preamble) Lastly, as you may recall, the IGF Secretariat asked to submit 5 statements that describe our outcome and can be used to request feedback on the DC3 outcome to the IGF participants. I suggest we simply use the preamble and the 4 paragraphs of the Declaration as statements. Let me know if you have different suggestions on the matter. Many thanks for your excellent feedback and for the great debate so far. All the best Luca FGV Direito Rio *Luca Belli, PhD* /Senior Researcher/ /Head of /*/Internet Governance @ FGV <http://internet-governance.fgv.br/>/*//luca.belli@fgv.br <mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br> +55 21 3799 *5763* http://www.fgv.br/mailing/Direito_Rio/assinatura_email/Ondas.png _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 <https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3> -- Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD PostDoctoral Fellow University of the Western Cape Zenzeleni Networks: zenzeleni.net <http://zenzeleni.net> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633 Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3

Dear Luca, thank you very much for all you work on the declaration and the report. The declaration does not incorporate the concern I raised about the first sentence of the preamble ( "Over three billion people do not have access to communication infrastructure") being a potential source of discrediting the whole declaration as it is not accurate. While there is common agreement that there are only 3 billion people connected to (using) the Internet, that does not mean that they do not have access to communications. For instance, the ITU shows that coverage for both GSM and 3G networks is way beyond that number [1]. Other reasons may explain this gap, affordability, lack of relevant content, confidence/skills, etc, but not lack of access. Thus, I propose, after the input from John Dada in the same email thread, to rephrase that sentence to: "Over four billion people may remain unconnected to the Internet, including around a billion who do not have access to basic telephony services".

Hi Carlos, Leandro and all My apologies for forgetting to include Carlos’ comment. Obviously, the comment is not only pertinent but also well-founded. The Preamble has already been modified accordingly. Best Luca *De:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas. altermundi.net] *Em nome de *Leandro Navarro *Enviada em:* sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2016 09:52 *Para:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity < dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net&gt; *Assunto:* Re: [DC3] Guadalajara Declaration and DC3 Report I also agree, we should start with a clear, precise statement of the challenge/situation, if possible with references to recognized sources. Regards, Leandro. On 4/11/16 05:57, Carlos Rey-Moreno wrote: Dear Luca, thank you very much for all you work on the declaration and the report. The declaration does not incorporate the concern I raised about the first sentence of the preamble ( "Over three billion people do not have access to communication infrastructure") being a potential source of discrediting the whole declaration as it is not accurate. While there is common agreement that there are only 3 billion people connected to (using) the Internet, that does not mean that they do not have access to communications. For instance, the ITU shows that coverage for both GSM and 3G networks is way beyond that number [1]. Other reasons may explain this gap, affordability, lack of relevant content, confidence/skills, etc, but not lack of access. Thus, I propose, after the input from John Dada in the same email thread, to rephrase that sentence to: "Over four billion people may remain unconnected to the Internet, including around a billion who do not have access to basic telephony services". Regards, carlos [1] http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/facts/default.aspx On 3 November 2016 at 23:05, Luca Belli &lt;luca.belli(a)fgv.br&gt; wrote: Hi all, Here is the v.3.0 of the Declaration https://pad.codigosur.org/ GuadalajaraDeclaration I think we have a very good text that we can submit to the IGF Secretariat as a DC3 outcome, together with the DC3 Report (or at least the Outline of the Report, in light of the fact that the Report is 172-page long) You can find the Outline of the Report here https://public.etherpad- mozilla.org/p/DC3_Report_Outline FYI, free hard-copies of the report will be distributed at the DC3 session (the printing and editing is sponsored by CTS/FGV). The Report will also be available online under Creative Commons License. Regarding the Declaration, although I was initially favourable to the use of square km rather than miles, some of you (particularly Bob) made some very good points on the usefulness of adopting/enhancing existing terminology. In this perspective, I think if could be wiser to speak about “first square mile” (see Preamble) Lastly, as you may recall, the IGF Secretariat asked to submit 5 statements that describe our outcome and can be used to request feedback on the DC3 outcome to the IGF participants. I suggest we simply use the preamble and the 4 paragraphs of the Declaration as statements. Let me know if you have different suggestions on the matter. Many thanks for your excellent feedback and for the great debate so far. All the best Luca [image: FGV Direito Rio] *Luca Belli, PhD* *Senior Researcher* *Head of **Internet Governance @ FGV <http://internet-governance.fgv.br/>* luca.belli(a)fgv.br +55 21 3799 *5763* [image: http://www.fgv.br/mailing/Direito_Rio/assinatura_email/Ondas.png] _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 -- Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD PostDoctoral Fellow University of the Western Cape Zenzeleni Networks: zenzeleni.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633 Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3 _______________________________________________ DC3 mailing list DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3

Hi Luca, glad I brought this back in, then. No apologies needed, we all have a lot of stuff on our plates and these things happen.... I also agree on Steve's addition. I am not sure about including references in a Declaration, it's the first time I'm part of one... :-S But if we do include one on the first sentence, we need to support the rest of info in the preamble. best, carlos On 4 November 2016 at 17:39, Steve Song &lt;steve(a)villagetelco.org&gt; wrote: -- Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD PostDoctoral Fellow University of the Western Cape Zenzeleni Networks: zenzeleni.net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633 Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym

Dear people, Given my current medical condition (which requires a recovery period of nearly two months), I am unable to travel. So, a new moderator for our workshop needs to be chosen.

Hi steve. In the last version: Declaration on Community Connectivity v.3.1 (UPDATED on 4 November) https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration ... the wording is changed. Would you still consider it important to add a mention to affordability? How would you phrase it in the current version? As to being too late, I understand we can still work on this text even during the IGF until we finalize a first version that will become an outcome of the event from the DC3. Cheers, Nico On 11/16/2016 12:39 PM, Steve Song wrote: mobile-phone-users-worldwide/