Hi Steve,
You've made a good point and what I had in mind, was to promote community
networks when we really had something to say, like once the Guadalajara
declaration was ready, or when we got some other things done as a
collective or when there is something big happening in the #comcon -world.
:)
It could also let our followers know, when we're gathering live or
virtually and inform them of new projects by our members.
You're absolutely right in being cautious about our tweets representing the
whole community and we definitely don't have to start tweeting all the
time. Only the obvious things that we can find common ground on.
-Raoul
On Dec 15, 2016 08:08, "Steve Song" <steve(a)villagetelco.org> wrote:
I wonder if it is a bit early for the community to have a twitter account,
if indeed it should ever have one. A twitter account for the DC3 community
implies that the account speaks for the community. It seems evident to me
from the IGF meetings that while there is amazing energy and goodwill to
work together to build and grow our community, we do have lots of different
points of view within the community. I don't understand how a single
twitter account will adequately represent that diversity.
An alternate strategy might be to agree on a hashtag for the community and
to tweet from our individual identities using the hashtag when posting
content relevant to DC3. This would accommodate both diversity of
viewpoint and local languages.
Regards to all... Steve
On 15 December 2016 at 08:47, Raoul Plommer <plommer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> We should tweet in English only, so that most people understand the tweets
> all the time. Just like we are using the mailing list in English only. That
> doesn't prevent us from linking to tweets/documents/posts/research in
> other languages. The followers need to know what's the point of the tweet.
> Just like on the mailing list. We want to be understood, as widely as
> possible.
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Dec 15, 2016 05:29, "Instituto Bem Estar Brasil" <
> instituto(a)bemestarbrasil.org.br> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maureen, here is the platform that we will use in local servers of the
>> new community networks that will be updated/created in our project in
>> IFF/UENF universities in the beginning of the next year.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://docs.moodle.org/dev/Releases
>>
>> Moodle is the platform (open source) that already be used in these two
>> institutions and now we are creating local servers in the communities to
>> make ignition to produce local contents.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to know more about the platform that Jane said too and if its
>> possible to put in local servers too, but, like Nico did, maybe we will
>> need to create spaces to debate and construct the 4 topics of the pad. I
>> would like to suggest Loomio for organize the 4 topics, but, lets see what
>> happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Marcelo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *De:* dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.alt
>> ermundi.net] *Em nome de *Maureen Hernandez
>> *Enviada em:* quarta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2016 03:51
>> *Para:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>> *Assunto:* Re: [DC3] RES: Twitter account for us
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with the comments, thanks Anya, you are totally correct.
>>
>> I also agree the multi lingual issue, my sugesstion for the moment is to
>> ask anyone that tweets from the account to take the moment to translate
>> into the other two languages beside their native one, (I consider English,
>> Spanish and Portuguese the main three), it's a little bit fuzzy but to put
>> 140 characters into translation is not that hard, and if the person is not
>> sure about the translation check with a partner.
>>
>> Finally about the credentials I think this is the best option
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2015/02/17/share-twitter-account/
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone with access should be aware that is our community manager and the
>> expressions made here will be seeing as the opinion of the DC3 so... handle
>> with caution.
>>
>>
>>
>> with love, Mau
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-12-13 22:50 GMT-04:00 osama manzar <osamam(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>> What's the handle? :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2016 at 04:46, Raoul Plommer <plommer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with all the changes and implemented them already.
>>
>>
>>
>> If other trusted people want the password for the account, please let me
>> know. I want this account to be an account of our community. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Raoul
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 December 2016 at 15:58, Nicolás Echániz <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Anya's comments. The account was created by Raoul "in the
>>
>>
>> heat of the moment" during the IGF, but I think it's good to have some
>>
>>
>> discussion about the Coalition's presence in social networks in
>>
>>
>> general, what will be the message and the importance of localization.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We need to keep this in our agenda.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For the time being, Anya's concern regarding the phrase "We are building
>>
>>
>> a community driven internet" and her proposal to change this for: "We
>>
>>
>> are building a community driven networks" is an important and easy to
>>
>>
>> solve issue. Similar concerns came up many times during the IGF.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I propose if no-one disagrees with this change, to implement it. If
>>
>>
>> anyone disagrees, please explain :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> Nico
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2016 03:09 PM, Anya Orlova wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Hello DC3 members,
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > first I'd like to briefly introduce myself. My name is Anya, I am part
>>
>>
>> > of the Fonias Jurua research project at the State University of Sao
>>
>>
>> > Paulo (UNESP), Brazil. Our project is part of Dynamic Coalition on
>>
>>
>> > Community Connectivity (DC3) and we also wrote a report "“Beyond the
>>
>>
>> > last mile: Fonias Juruá Project – an HF digital radio network experiment
>>
>>
>> > in Amazon (Acre/Brazil)," presenting Amazon Digital Radio Network using
>>
>>
>> > High Frequency radio band in the Brazilian Amazon forest.
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > I would like to make two point about the DC3 twitter account. First, is
>>
>>
>> > about the description of the account that says "DC3 is the twitter
>>
>>
>> > account for Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity. We are building
>>
>>
>> > a community driven internet." I cannot totally agree with the second
>>
>>
>> > sentence of the description, as I think it doesn't boil down to Internet
>>
>>
>> > only. Our project is working on providing communication infrastructure
>>
>>
>> > and connectivity to the communities that are living in the under served
>>
>>
>> > areas without any means of communication. Therefore our first goal is to
>>
>>
>> > provide connectivity over the HF radio band that is the only feasible
>>
>>
>> > solution in the given geographical location, and based on this solution
>>
>>
>> > we are planing to then connect these communities to the Internet. I am
>>
>>
>> > aware of other community networks that are focused on providing local
>>
>>
>> > mobile telephony(e.g. GSM) connectivity, like the Rhizomatica and the
>>
>>
>> > Zenzeleni projects. So I think this twitter account should not be
>>
>>
>> > limited to just Internet. To me it's about ICT - including other
>>
>>
>> > information and communication technologies that can complement and/or go
>>
>>
>> > beyond Internet (where Internet connectivity is just not feasible yet or
>>
>>
>> > does not meet the community's needs). Moreover, I think we should stay
>>
>>
>> > inclusive and not exclude anyone working on community connectivity
>>
>>
>> > solutions. My suggestion would be to change the second sentence to
>>
>>
>> > something like: "We are building a community driven networks."
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > My second comment is about languages. Many community networks that were
>>
>>
>> > presented at DC3/IGF sessions are from the Global South and are local.
>>
>>
>> > Moreover, one message that i took back from IGF was that local culture
>>
>>
>> > and local context are vital to address the needs of local communities. I
>>
>>
>> > guess that the question we should ask here, is which purpose this
>>
>>
>> > twitter account is to serve and who do we address with all that
>>
>>
>> > knowledge we want to share about community connectivity. Therefore I
>>
>>
>> > think that even if we decide to keep this account English only, we need
>>
>>
>> > to think how can we include all those other languages and not only
>>
>>
>> > provide information about community connectivity but make it accessible
>>
>>
>> > to the people from all over the world in their languages. Again, for me
>>
>>
>> > this means being inclusive.
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > I am looking forward to your comments and suggestions.
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > Thank you,
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > Anya Orlova
>>
>>
>> > Researcher
>>
>>
>> > Amazon Digital Radio Network using HF/Fonias Jurua Project (UNESP)
>>
>> > http://fonias.submidia.org/ <http://fonias.submidia.org/>
>>
>>
>> > @RadioAmazon
>>
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>> > On 12 December 2016 at 16:43, Luca Belli <luca.belli(a)fgv.br
>>
>>
>> > <mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > Hi, ____
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > I suggest that we change the twitter image and the website image
>>
>>
>> > because the one we are using now is also used by IEEE internet
>>
>>
>> > initiative. ____
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > We can use the one I utilized for the report cover
>>
>>
>> > https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2013/05/07/08/38/globe-109274
>> _960_720.jpg
>>
>>
>> > <https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2013/05/07/08/38/globe-10927
>> 4_960_720.jpg>
>>
>>
>> > __ __
>>
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>> >
>>
>>
>> > Can be freely downloaded here
>>
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>> > https://pixabay.com/p-109274/?no_redirect
>>
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>> > <https://pixabay.com/p-109274/?no_redirect>____
>>
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>> >
>>
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>> > Best____
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > Luca____
>>
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>> >
>>
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>> > __ __
>>
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>> >
>>
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>> > FGV Direito Rio____
>>
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>> >
>>
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>> >
>>
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>> >
>>
>>
>> > *Luca Belli, PhD*
>>
>>
>> > /Senior Researcher/
>>
>>
>> > /Head of /*/Internet Governance @ FGV
>>
>>
>> > <http://internet-governance.fgv.br/>/*//luca.belli(a)fgv.br
>>
>>
>> > <mailto:luca.belli@fgv.br>
>>
>>
>> > +55 21 3799 *5763*/____/
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > http://www.fgv.br/mailing/Direito_Rio/assinatura_email/Onda
>> s.png____
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > __ __
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > __ __
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> > *De:*dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>>
>>
>> > <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>
>>
>>
>> > [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net
>>
>>
>> > <mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net>] *Em nome de *Raoul
>> Plommer
>>
>>
>> > *Enviada em:* sexta-feira, 9 de dezembro de 2016 15:53
>>
>>
>> > *Para:* Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
>>
>>
>> > <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:dc3@listas.altermundi.net>>
>>
>>
>> > *Assunto:* [DC3] Twitter account for us____
>>
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>> >
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>> > __ __
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>> >
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>> > https://twitter.com/_ComCon____
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>> > __ __
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>> >
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>> > __ __
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> > DC3 mailing list
>>
>>
>> > DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net <mailto:DC3@listas.altermundi.net>
>>
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>> > https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
>>
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>> > <https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3>
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>> > _______________________________________________
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>>
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>> > DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net
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hi
I've lurking for a couple of weeks - and regretting terribly for having
missed the IGF - and I'd like to introduce myself.
I run Nuvem, a space for art and technology located in the countryside of
Brazil. Last year we started a community project in the village of Fumaça,
which consisted of a mesh network and a cell phone station (
http://nuvem.tk/wiki/index.php/Fumaça_Data_Springs). It was funded
initially by a commotion grant, and afterwards by a Web We Want grant. Here
is a nice 15 minute video documentation:
http://www.ibe.tv/es/canal/laaventuradeaprender/849/Nuvem-Esta%C3%A7%C3%A3o…
We had the support of Libremesh, Guifinet, Rhizomatica and a bunch of
fantastic volunteers such as Henrique Mohr :)
In the beginning of the next year, we shall publish a call for a
commotion-like grant for community network projects in Brazil, using funds
from a donation from the Ford Foundation. It is a much smaller scale than
commotion's - just for 4 projects and a lot less money for each - but it
will be a way to map the demands and foster new local initiatives.
Also, I'm involved in an on-going project in the Maré favela in Rio de
Janeiro, which began after the Fumaça network and will have a new phase in
the beginning of the next year.
Let me know if you need more info or simply is interested to learn more
about the projects. Oh, and my day job is to teach in an art and technology
free school for low-income teens in Rio de Janeiro.
Best regards,
Bruno
Hi guys,
I met with Karen McCabe, Senior Director of Technology Policy and
International Affairs of IEEE and
James Wendorf, Internet Venture Program Director.
I just want to share with you the outcomes of my meeting with IEEE.
The other meeting that comes tomorrow is with the guy from the
Libraries.
This is the email I sent to IEEE guys:
---
Hi!
It has been awesome to get together with you two!
Let me just brief you about we have been talking about... please, add
or correct anything you want on this.
This is just a Draft, for us to share with each of our institutions:
IEEE as the Global Technical Community acknowledges that promoting the
expansion of Internet from bottom up through Community Networking is a
viable way and would like to promote it.
The Dynamic Coallision for Community Connectivity (DC3 for short)
represents the global community of Community Networks build from bottom
up, and have the will to grow in a sustainable way.
IEEE and DC3 agree to work together to promote Community Networks as a
mean to grow Internet in a sustainable and empowering way.
These are the initiatives related directly with Community Networks that
we have talked about:
* DC3 will open and share the Courses on Community Network building
(non-technical, 8 hours long) and the Diplomacy on Community Networks
(technical, around 64 hours long).
* IEEE will endorse the Courses on Community Network building and the
Diplomacy on Community Networks. We will work together to take the
courses from a simple endorsement to a certification if it can be.
* IEEE, DC3 and the International Federation of Library Association
and Institutions (IFLA) commit to work together on get tools for people
to build their own networks and be able to be part of Internet.
* With the involvement of the IFLA, we will coordinate with DC3, IEEE
and the Libraries to have a pilot to give the courses on site and
empower one community we will choose together. We will document the
process in order to use them as an example for each organization to
motivate the members on this initiative.
* As a long term goal, we will encourage Engineers on the field
around the world to promote Community Networks as a means to do
Community work.
We also talked about TV Whitespace, and the need for a global open
standard protocol for exchanging spectrum usage information.
We commited to get to our communities to know a little more about how
things are going on IEEE side (IEEE 802 technical group).
We share the concern to have an open standard protocol for exchanging
spectrum usage information.
On my side, I need to talk to my community about what needs to be done
to open our content.
On your side, you will talk with your people about the proposals and
about what happened with TVWS inside TVWS.
Hope to start working with you!
Regards,
--
Nicolás Pace
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nickar
Hi everyone,
Would like to collect all interventions that we believe have been
valuable for our cause, so we can extract those videos and have them
published on youtube'ish places for us to use them apart of the big
amount of hours of video around.
Please, reply to this email with those intervention.
Just to easen the task of editting, please send:
session, name of the person, what was it about
That way will be easier to spot them on the videos (we have a
transcript where we can search the interventions).
Regards,
--
Nicolás Pace
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nickar
Hi all,
I agree with Roul that modifications to the text of the Declaration should be discussed on the DC3 mailing list, so that everyone has the possibility to provide feedback.
Several modifications were proposed last week and I think we should have a couple weeks to carefully read and discuss them.
Here is the pad with the latest version of the Declaration https://pad.codigosur.org/GuadalajaraDeclaration
Please take your time to read it and to express your feedback, so that we can consolidate all comments into a consensus document.
Given that many of us will have holydays over the next weeks, I propose DC3 members provide their feedback on the latest version of the declaration by 3 January.
All the best
Luca
[FGV Direito Rio]
Luca Belli, PhD
Senior Researcher
Head of Internet Governance @ FGV<http://internet-governance.fgv.br/> luca.belli(a)fgv.br
+55 21 3799 5763
[http://www.fgv.br/mailing/Direito_Rio/assinatura_email/Ondas.png]
De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [mailto:dc3-bounces@listas.altermundi.net] Em nome de Raoul Plommer
Enviada em: sábado, 10 de dezembro de 2016 23:22
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>
Assunto: [DC3] Neutrality of technology in the Guadalajara declaration
Dear all,
There was quite a bit of disagreement on the language used in the declaration, partially because the sentence was added there only today, without the acceptance wider community. I think it was poor judgement to add it today without any discussion with all the members of our Dynamic Coalition. However, now that it's out there, and we ended up spending almost two hours of our precious time on these sudden additions, we might as well include this, admittedly fair point. Here are my proposals of the different variations on just one sentence that could be used instead.
One of the sentences that was discussed, is as follows:
"We acknowledge that communication technology is not neutral and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community."
...and here are my suggestions. I wrote the crucial changes in bold:
1) We acknowledge that communication technologies are not always neutral and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
2) We acknowledge that the usage of communication technology is not neutral and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
3) We acknowledge that community networks are not neutral and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
As you can see, my suggestions are not making that much change to the spirit of the meaning, but just wording it differently will actually make our statement more accurate and popular, as well as less controversial. The declaration should really alienate as few people as possible and we really need to keep that in mind, while still making a definitive statement that is actually saying something.
I.e. the hammer itself IS neutral (although people with no hands won't be able to use it properly. Also, we're all babies at some point and babies won't be able to lift the hammer). It is really the usage of the hammer that can be used in non-neutral way and is the most important acknowledgement, that we DO need for this specific declaration. My first suggestion captures this point of view sufficiently enough.
I feel that all of us agreed on the spirit of the sentence, and I also think that my first suggestion is the one that would really be the best for our purposes. It takes into the account the fact, that community networks can be misused (for example, in an unequal way considering gender), but it's not saying that community networks are not neutral by default. Even if they were (and I don't think they are), I feel that's an unnecessarily negative statement and we should avoid those in our otherwise very positive vision.
Somebody suggested to use a differentiating platform (like GitHub?) for the comparison of the crucial sentences and paragraphs in the declaration and I think that's a very good idea. Then we can vote on different versions of them and decide which ones are the best for our purposes. We obviously need to build consensus on our constitution and hopefully the output of that will be a declaration/constitution that we can all agree on.
Thanks,
-Raoul
Hi guys,
I wanted to share with you the outcomes of the meeting with Stewart of
IFLA (Global federation of Libraries).
The email I sent to them is below.
---
Hi Guys,
I just wanted to brief everyone about what I spoke with Stewart.
Basically, we are all on the same page.
Just to have a little background:
* IEEE is a community of more than 400,000 Engineers distributed all
around the world
* IFLA is a community of more than 300,000 Libraries distributed all
around the world
* DC3 is the Dynamic Coalision on Community Connectivity that gathers
all Community Networks (CN for short) around the world
This is what we agreed upon:
* IFLA, IEEE and DC3 agree on the aproach of bottom-up community
networks as a way to grow Connectivity around the world.
* IFLA, IEEE and DC3 agree on making a pilot where IEEE Engineers,
DC3 Advocates and IFLA Librarians work together to help a willing
community to build a Community Network around onf IFLA Library.
* IFLA, IEEE and DC3 agree on the strategy of promoting the grow of
internet throu the promotion of Community Networks around the globe
with the help of IEEE Engineers throu IFLA Libraries.
* As a long term vision, IFLA Libraries will give DC3 Courses on
Community Connectivity with the help of IEEE Engineers and DC3
Advocates to promote Community Networks.
Stewart and I have drafted these next steps:
0. Nico will create a mailing list for us to work on this relationship
1. Nico will send the basic DC3 materials needed to understand what
Community Networks are
2. Nico will build a small video about the experience of Guifi.net
and Libraries, an interview about what a CN is, what Guifi is and how
did the relation with Libraries worked out
3. Stewart will share this with IFLA representatives
4. Stewart will identify individuals and organizations within his
community for potencial work
5. Stewart will contact DC3 (Nico) and IEEE to coordinate on where we
can do the pilot
6. Then discuss next steps
I guess we should also build a tentative roadmap for IEEE-DC3
relationship also.
Great working session Stuart, Karen and James!
Hope to read you soon!
--
Nicolás Pace
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nickar
Great maureen. The plataform of moocs that we want to use here in brasil is moodle. If u want i can send the link for u.
Enviado do meu smartphone Samsung Galaxy.-------- Mensagem original --------De: Maureen Hernandez <hernandezgmaureenp(a)gmail.com> Data: 11/12/2016 12:16 (GMT-06:00) Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net> Assunto: Re: [DC3] Res: Courses initiatives on dc3
Maybe we can unify all this into a cooperative learning program! I think we can gather all the info we have and make an official outcome.
I also know people from ICT4D in ICTP also have a lot of trainning material that includes the basics in a very easy-to-understand way.
I'm happy to help you with this Nico.
On Dec 11, 2016 12:57, "Ritu Srivastava" <ritu.sri(a)defindia.net> wrote:
Dear Nico
DEF has course on wireless networking. We also have various videos related to the project.
Count us on this.
regardsritu
With warm regards,
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Digital Empowerment Foundation (DEF)
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On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, instituto <instituto(a)bemestarbrasil.org.br> wrote:
Hi nico in brazil we are doing videos and preparing educational marerials with hybrid networks. When i arrive in home i can send the drafts and will be good to create a common space to share and co-create a better contents collectivly
Enviado do meu smartphone Samsung Galaxy.-------- Mensagem original --------De: Nicolas <nico(a)libre.ws> Data: 11/12/2016 09:32 (GMT-06:00) Para: dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net Assunto: [DC3] Courses initiatives on dc3
Hi guys,
I just wanted to do a follow-up on the topic of knowledge sharing.
Who of you are doing courses on community connectivity?
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Yep. We can do the course menu first defining which technologies ans contents we will aprouch and then put the hands on
Enviado do meu smartphone Samsung Galaxy.-------- Mensagem original --------De: Jane Coffin <coffin(a)isoc.org> Data: 11/12/2016 13:07 (GMT-06:00) Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>, Maureen Hernandez <hernandezgmaureenp(a)gmail.com> Assunto: Re: [DC3] Res: Courses initiatives on dc3
We have an on-line training course developed with DEF and IEEE.
We can send that link early on Monday.
Note that this was the first iteration of the course – if folks want to help us improve it – we can talk about that.
Jane
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Date: Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:22 PM
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net>, Maureen Hernandez <hernandezgmaureenp(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DC3] Res: Courses initiatives on dc3
I'm sure we can do lot of things, and we will!
For now, I want to gather this information to consolidate the efforts needed for the Libraries relation.
Regards
On December 11, 2016 12:16:46 PM CST, Maureen Hernandez <hernandezgmaureenp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe we can unify all this into a cooperative learning program! I think we can gather all the info we have and make an official outcome.
I also know people from ICT4D in ICTP also have a lot of trainning material that includes the basics in a very easy-to-understand way.
I'm happy to help you with this Nico.
On Dec 11, 2016 12:57, "Ritu Srivastava" <ritu.sri(a)defindia.net> wrote:
Dear Nico
DEF has course on wireless networking. We also have various videos related to the project.
Count us on this.
regards
ritu
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the masses, to create even opportunities and linkages between haves and have-nots so that the grassroots knowledge reaches the economic prosperity and vice-versa through information communication technology and digital media.
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Website: http://www.internetrights.in/;
On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, instituto <instituto(a)bemestarbrasil.org.br> wrote:
Hi nico in brazil we are doing videos and preparing educational marerials with hybrid networks. When i arrive in home i can send the drafts and will be good to create a common space to share and co-create a better contents collectivly
Enviado do meu smartphone Samsung Galaxy.
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Da ta: 11/12/2016 09:32 (GMT-06:00)
Para:
dc3(a)listas.altermundi.net
Assunto: [DC3] Courses initiatives on dc3
Hi guys,
I just wanted to do a follow-up on the topic of knowledge sharing.
Who of you are doing courses on community connectivity?
Regards
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Dear all,
There was quite a bit of disagreement on the language used in the
declaration, partially because the sentence was added there only today,
without the acceptance wider community. I think it was poor judgement to
add it today without any discussion with all the members of our Dynamic
Coalition. However, now that it's out there, and we ended up spending
almost two hours of our precious time on these sudden additions, we might
as well include this, admittedly fair point. Here are my proposals of the
different variations on just one sentence that could be used instead.
One of the sentences that was discussed, is as follows:
*"We acknowledge that communication technology is not neutral and can
exacerbate unequal power relations in the community."*
...and here are my suggestions. I wrote the crucial changes in bold:
1) We acknowledge that communication technologies are not *always* neutral
and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
2) We acknowledge that the *usage* of communication technology is not
neutral and can exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
3) We acknowledge that *community networks* are not neutral and can
exacerbate unequal power relations in the community.
As you can see, my suggestions are not making that much change to the
spirit of the meaning, but just wording it differently will actually make
our statement more accurate and popular, as well as less controversial. The
declaration should really alienate as few people as possible and we really
need to keep that in mind, while still making a definitive statement that
is actually saying something.
I.e. the hammer itself IS neutral (although people with no hands won't be
able to use it properly. Also, we're all babies at some point and babies
won't be able to lift the hammer). It is really the usage of the hammer
that can be used in non-neutral way and is the most important
acknowledgement, that we DO need for this specific declaration. My first
suggestion captures this point of view sufficiently enough.
I feel that *all* of us agreed on the spirit of the sentence, and I also
think that my first suggestion is the one that would really be the best for
our purposes. It takes into the account the fact, that community networks
can be misused (for example, in an unequal way considering gender), but
it's *not* saying that community networks are not neutral by default. Even
if they were (and I don't think they are), I feel that's an unnecessarily
negative statement and we should avoid those in our otherwise very positive
vision.
Somebody suggested to use a differentiating platform (like GitHub?) for the
comparison of the crucial sentences and paragraphs in the declaration and I
think that's a very good idea. Then we can vote on different versions of
them and decide which ones are the best for our purposes. We obviously need
to build consensus on our constitution and hopefully the output of that
will be a declaration/constitution that we can all agree on.
Thanks,
-Raoul