The current form requests a bio of each proposed speaker.
Please, if you are in the speaker list add at least 20 words of bio in
the pad:
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/DC3_Workshop_Proposal_IGF_2016
We need to submit the proposal ASAP.
Luca is catching a plane so I'm filling the form.
Cheers!
Nico
Dear people,
Just an update and a suggestion regarding DC3 presence/involvement in
the IGF 2016/Mexico.
Time is very short, and checking with people more closely involved with
the process indicates it is a bit late for us to try and propose a Best
Practice Forum (BPF).
However, we could indeed propose a workshop, and again time is short.
But while a BPF imposes several requisites (including the leadership or
coordination of a MAG member etc), a workshop is simpler: needs to be
multistakeholder, needs to be related to one of the main themes of the
IGF (easy), and the proposal needs to include a provisional list of
speakers and sponsoring/supporting organizations.
I do not see these as difficulties. I am attaching the proposal Nupef
did for the IGF 2015 for a roundtable (one of the workshop formats
accepted by the IGF) on spectrum at the edge. Maybe adapting it to the
more general scope of the DC3 would be a way to expedite a proposal.
If agreed, I guess we need volunteers to do the job of writing up the
proposal. Deadline (MAG does not plan to extend it): June 6th, 2016.
More info on workshops for 2016:
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/igf16-workshops
If the community decides to do it, I think APC (Mike?), Nupef and CGI.br
could be listed as co-organizers or supporters, as you wish. I guess it
would be ideal if the leading organizer (for the purpose of the
application at least) were Rhizomatica, since it is Mexico-based and
very successful on the theme. Does not imply funding of course, but at
least to comply with the formality of quoting organizations' involvement
to strengthen the proposal.
Last but not least, I guess maybe you are already advancing on that. My
suggestions stand anyway.
fraternal regards
--c.a.
Hi all,
I've been asked to provide names of women working on the Community
Networks/Public WiFi Models to get gender balance in another workshop to be
organized at IGF 2016. Apart from Jane Coffin, from ISOC, and Elektra (who
I'm not sure is still involve on this) I couldn't come up with other names.
Any pointers?
best,
carlos
--
Carlos Rey-Moreno, PhD
PostDoctoral Fellow University of the Western Cape
Zenzeleni Networks: zenzeleni.nethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M
Cel: +27 (0) 76 986 3633
Skype: carlos.reymoreno Twitter: Creym
Dear Bob,
yes, this is so important for the people to understand:
"Client and server are roles in the relationship between the two
endpoints but the basic Internet protocols are fundamentally peer
protocols. The asymmetry of the web protocols reinforces the narrative
of the Internet as something we access. We do access web sites but
that’s a way we use the Internet not what defines it."
In principal, every device act, and can act, in both functionality. The
dominant thinking about Client/Servers is very similar to the
Consumer/Creator relation. Every person can be both. And every device
can be both.
from:
80/20 Consumer Electronics
http://frankston.com/public/?name=IEEEBlinky
many greetings, willi
Manaus, Brasil
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Dear friends,
this is a title from Bob to this question.
"Spectrum as Farmland. Our current policies treat spectrum as if it were
a physical thing like farmland. In fact it is just a construct from the
1920’s that limits our ability to communicate."
I love it very much.
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Dear friends,
i am not able to rewrite my proposals for your Call of Papers to the 6.
June. And i think, much more important is to participate in a discussion
about our basic principles and visions.
I send you my last text with this thema to the ISOC global list. It was
a try to deepen the discussion. But after the big thread "Next
Generation Internet" in the ISOC list some people say, i want to destroy
the global ISOC maillist like the 1net.org maillist from NetMundial.
The core problem for me is, that in all this groups like IGF, IUF, ISOC,
Bestbits, APC, NetMundial and so on the people don't understand, what is
telecommunication. And what should be the InterNet.
They speak about every day in any form and relations. But never they
want to speak about the technical basics.
The same experience i have made in the community networks like Freifunk,
Funkfeuer, Guiffi.net, Buenas Aires Libre. They are consumers. They
never reflect the basic principles in the telecommunication.
We have this positive description in the WEF text and in the proposals
in DC3. I formulate it so:
Internet, the Inter-connection of local Net-works, a transport system
for digital data in packet form. And this correlate directly with our
positive description for telecommunication. The term InterNet decribes
the form, the structure, of our telecommunication.
In Europe and North America the situation is very different to Latin
America, Africa and Asia. But this should be our focus. The question
arise, what we have to do, that the people in this "outside" regions are
able to organize her telecommunication systems self.
Also parminder from India, he is also in this list, have to ask himself,
what he can do to support the people in the rural regions in India. And
not always fight against the rulers in the "industrial centers" in North
America and Europe.
Based on my professional experience and my living time in Latin America
and Asia i see very clear, we have have to organize the "centers for
free technology" in all regions on our planet. This are the seedlings
for our local independent economy, based on local capacity.
Clear, this needs the telecommunication system for our global
cooperation. But the "theoretical" question of chicken or egg don't
exist in the reality. We can say, we use the bad telecommunication to
create a good one. And with that a more better one. It is an
evolutionary strategie, based on the nature.
The main point in our basic discussions after the more theoretical
design principles is the hardware for transmission of our data. To this
point we connect necessarly after some time. And we should not avoid. We
have to break the dogmas with the wavetheory based on the tranversal
waves from Heinrich Herz.
We need a high energy efficience in the transmission for the transport
of data. I think, the using of fibre optic transmission is not a good
way. But that we have here in this list the openess for this discussion
i am not sure.
Independent of that we need our global network for free technology. In
this space, we can act. Because there are only people with a strong
interest for the basic laws of the nature, what we can use in our
telecommunication.
I have integrated 2 friends in the CC. Maybe, they want participate in
our group. (https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3)
Quiliro Ordonez from Ecuador
Franz Nahrada from Austria
many greetings, willi
Manaus, Brasil
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] UPDATE: Is the Internet Fragmenting?
Datum: Thu, 26 May 2016 13:08:28 -0400
Von: willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr(a)riseup.net>
An: ISOC Internet Policy <internetpolicy(a)elists.isoc.org>
Dear friends and all,
many thanks to Miles and Greg to initiate this strong and very helpful
discussion. And many thanks to all contributors.
And many thanks to Richard and Vinton for the link to the text "WEF-FII
Internet Fragmentation ...". Many thanks to the authors Vinton, William
and Wolfgang and all her friends in the internal discussion and reflection.
With this text we have a compression of views and opinions to the
"Internet". This can be a base for a deeper discussion.
1) Open Internet
In the text "WEF-FII ..." we find a strong positive description:
"... the original shared vision guiding the Internet’s development was
that every device on the Internet should be able to exchange data
packets with any other device that was willing to receive them..."
This can be the base for us. And this base makes the life for us much
easier.
2) The layer construction
I start my discussion with this point. The authors speak about 4, 5, 6
layers. We know, layers are a model. An abstraction, to understand
better and easier, what is going on.
Based on point 1) we transport packets. We have two objects. The data
and the transport information. Therefore, we have two layers. The
transport layer and the data layer or data interpretation layer.
In our discussion we look only to the transport layer. The packets
should reach the recipient and the content should be the same. Depending
on the methodology we can construct some sublayers and this sublayers
can be different in some regions. The core function is independent of that.
We can use many different forms of physical transport mechanism and, of
course, various methods of navigation in the transport. For the data
layer it is not important.
The questions in the transport are, how we find the recipient and how we
make sure that the content of the packet remains unchanged.
many greetings, willi
Manaus, Brasil
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Dear friends,
this title i found in the archive. I like it. Now i am subscribed to
this list. On the Governance list i read the first time about this
group. Then in the list "BattleMesh". I beg for tolerance with my bad
English.
I was not able to visit the IUF and IGF forums 2015 in Joao Pessoa. I
don't get a Visa, because i stayed in this time 3 month in Brasil. I had
to go out.
Short to me. German, 67 years (1949), Master electric (german
professional title) and engineer for technical informatic. In general i
am oriented to the combination of theory and praxis. Therefore free
technology is in primary for me first free hardware and not software.
Since 5,5 years i live in Latin America. Nearly 3 years in Venezuela.
The other time from Mexico to Chile/Argentina. Mostly oriented to the
ALBA states.
Dear Nico, in April you wrote about Ecuador and have referenced the text
from ecuadortransparente.org. It is true, we have to be sceptic in all
what is written. Also in that, what we write self.
3 month i lived in Ecuador. My participation in the FLOK society was
blocked. Clear. In this time mostly i cooperate with CICE Amaru
(Confederation Intercultural CampesinAs Ecuador), the people from Intag
Valey, the students and professors at different universities, Software
Libre and FSFLA (Free Software Foundation Latin America). And with JCE,
Juventud Comunista Ecuador and PCE, Partido Comunista Ecuador.
In a groop from 20 different communities from all parts of Ecuador we
had a meeting with the secretary from Minister for Transport,
responsible for the telecommunication. We tried to explain him, what we
have to do. It is nearly the same, what we find in the DC3 proposals.
All my friends was clear, with this people in this state institutions it
will be impossible. They speak about telecommunication and don't
understand anything. Their only interest is, to be important. And in the
result of the earthquake we see the same.
Andre Gunder Frank wrote 50 years before:
Latin America, the development of underdevelopment. It is a strategic
action to block and destroy the self-organisation. And not from outside.
We see it in Argentina, Brasil and Venezuela.
The objects for me are the local Independence. And this is always based
on the local independent economy. And every economy is based on the
local technical infrastructure and the independence in the technology.
I don't speak about the distribution system with the money system. In
the economy we don't find money.
We know, we need our global telecommunication for our global
interconnection for our global cooperation.
In the
Future of the Internet Initiative White Paper
Internet Fragmentation: An Overview
Vinton Cerf, William Drake, Wolfgang Kleinwaechter
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_FII_Internet_Fragmentation_An_Overview_201…
we find the core:
"From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the
Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be
able to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to
receive them."
In the text from Luca we find the same:
"CONNECTIVITY
"Connectivity" is the ability to reach all endpoints connected to the
Internet without any form of restriction to the content exchanged,
enabling end-usersto run any application and use any tyoe of service via
any device."
And much more:
"COMMUNITY NETWORK
“Community networks” are a subset of crowdsourced networks that are
structured to be open, free, and neutral. In these communities the
infrastructure is established by the participants and is managed as a
common resource, owned by the community. Community networks can be
operationalised, wholly or partly, through local private sector entities."
We need our perspectives and visions. In the practical implementation we
need a strong decentralisation. It is depend on our basic design principles.
You know, maybe, my proposals for the "Internet, the inter-connection of
local networks" to NetMundial, IGF, ISOC and EuroSurv. It is always the
same. We have some basic questions, what we have to discuss. And i see,
that this group DC3 is oriented to this basic discussion. This makes me
very happy.
many greetings, willi
Manaus, Brasil
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Hi Luca,
I've started writing what I'd like to share as our "case study" (or
something like) that in the DC3 Report.
You know I'm not an academy guy, so my texts tend to be... familiar
(globish).
but anyway. I'd like to share with you what I'm writing and I'd like
very much to have your input on this.
The text is here:
https://pad.codigosur.org/MiniMaxi
Feel free to edit or add comments.
I'm guessing the finished version will be about double the existing
text. That would be about 2.000 to 2.500 words.
Cheers!
Nico
PS: you'll see there are some new subscriptions on the list. I've
started invited people from the more geek/hacker circles of Community
Networks... let's see how that plays out :)
