14 Apr
2020
14 Apr
'20
2:49 p.m.
Dear all,
I hope this email finds you well and in good health in these troubled times.
This message is to start a discussion regarding the work to be developed as IGF 2020
output of the coalition and the organisation of the annual IGF meeting.
As you might know, the IGF Secretariat recently issued its call for proposals for
workshops and DC meetings for the next IGF, which should in principle (Coronavirus
permitting) take place in Poland on 2-6 November.
As the current covid19 pandemic offers concrete evidence of the incredible importance of
being connected, I would like to propose a Symposium dedicated to “Covd19 and Internet
Openness”.
The Symposium will be a collection of short essays showing the incredible value of
non-discriminatory connectivity as well as the incredible potential of alternative
connectivity models, such as community networks. For this reason, I would suggest
developing the initiative as a partnership between 2 coalitions I coordinate within the
IGF (the one on Net Neutrality and the one on Community Connectivity) as they represent
complementary facets of the same debate.
The authors of the essays will be listed as speakers for the IGF session of the
coalition.
I have been talking about the initiative with some of you directly and I am happy to say
that we will be able to publish the essays online on MediaNama (largest tech & policy
portal in India) as soon as we receive and edit them, and that MediaNama’s Founder and
Editor Nikhil Pahwa has kindly agreed to co-edit the essays with me. After the publication
online, we could collect all the essays (ideally between 10 and 15) and publish them in a
booklet on “Covd19 and the Value of Internet Openness” to be released at the IGF (if the
IGF will be maintained) and freely accessible online. Everything will be licensed in CC,
of course.
The suggestion is to explore a variety of ongoing issues going from blocking and Internet
shutdowns, to zero rating and net neutrality, community network experiences and new
conceptualisations of Internet access as a human right.
I have already spoken with some of you and there are a lot of good ideas already in the
air.
Here is the suggested format.
* Essays can be 1000 to 1500 words in length. If you require more words, please
consider making your contribution into a two-part post.
* Please only use in-text citations or hyperlinks (i.e., no footnotes).
* To take advantage of the momentum, I suggest fixing a deadline (at least for the
first batch of) submissions on Wednesday 25 April.
Those confirming their interest in writing an essay by the 22nd (and sending the first
draft by the 25th) will be considered as speakers for the coalition IGF session. The 22nd
is the dealine to submit a session proposal.
Please, feel free share your thoughts on this
All the best
Luca
15 Apr
15 Apr
3:03 p.m.
I would like to write an article on the need to create a governanceless
internet in order to avoid centralized collapse.
3:38 p.m.
New subject: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Do it! :-)
Right now there is a rumor coming from China which proposes an entirely new
transport/addressing set of protocols, called NewIP.
If this came to be, it would be like a sort of coronavirus for so many devices. Billions
of devices currently connected to the Internet survived the jump to IPv6. However, most of
them were built by companies that do not upgrade their firmware, or have disappeared. I
own a Samsung Galaxy Tab which firmware/OS has never been updated by Samsung (BTW, a
vulnerability of most of the Android devices). Now I use it as a Kindle reader, and just
connect it to the Net when I wish to update my e-book repository. Would it connect in the
NewIP world? Probably not, and for most people this is an expensive device.
I would like to read articles about this.
fraternal regards
--c.a.
On 15/04/2020 12:03, quiliro wrote:
I would like to write an article on the need to create a governanceless
internet in order to avoid centralized collapse.
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7:32 p.m.
New subject: RES: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Hi Quiliro and CA
Very interesting ideas to explore!
Actually you may want to check also ETSI's work on NonIP (which is very similar to
Huawei"s proposal although it attacted almost no attention...)
https://www.etsi.org/newsroom/press-releases/1749-2020-04-etsi-launches-new…
Please, feel free to send your draft!
All the best
Luca
________________________________________
De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net] em nome de
Carlos Afonso [ca(a)cafonso.ca]
Enviado: quarta-feira, 15 de abril de 2020 12:38
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
Assunto: Re: [DC3] Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Do it! :-)
Right now there is a rumor coming from China which proposes an entirely new
transport/addressing set of protocols, called NewIP.
If this came to be, it would be like a sort of coronavirus for so many devices. Billions
of devices currently connected to the Internet survived the jump to IPv6. However, most of
them were built by companies that do not upgrade their firmware, or have disappeared. I
own a Samsung Galaxy Tab which firmware/OS has never been updated by Samsung (BTW, a
vulnerability of most of the Android devices). Now I use it as a Kindle reader, and just
connect it to the Net when I wish to update my e-book repository. Would it connect in the
NewIP world? Probably not, and for most people this is an expensive device.
I would like to read articles about this.
fraternal regards
--c.a.
On 15/04/2020 12:03, quiliro wrote:
I would like to write an article on the need to create a governanceless
internet in order to avoid centralized collapse.
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
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--
Carlos A. Afonso
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Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
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21 Apr
21 Apr
4:43 p.m.
New subject: RES: RES: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Dear all,
As the deadline to submit IGF session proposals approaches (tomorrow, as stresses by CA),
here is a brief session proposal, based on your reactions and expressions of interest,
following the call for an "Internet Openness and Covid19” symposium.
SESSION TITLE
Community Networks at times of Crises
SHORT DESCRIPTION
This session will discuss the Importance of Internet access and the relevance of community
networks as a credible strategy to expand access empowering people, at times of crises. As
the recent Covid19 pandemic is tellingly demonstrating, connectivity is becoming
increasingly essential for our social, economic, and political lives.
Panellists will explore a variety of standpoints discussed by the authors of the DC3
annual outcome (developed in partnership with DCNN): the report on “The Value of Internet
Openness at Times of Crises”
The session will have a tripartite structure featuring:
1) Presentations based on the contributions to the DC3 annual outcome report
2) Discussion of the latest community networking evolutions, highlighted by the covid19
pandemic
3) Identification of new challenges and cooperation opportunities to be considered by the
future work of DC3
The confirmed panellists and authors of the DC3 outcome report are
- Jane Coffin, ISOC
- Sonia Jorge and Dhanaraj Thakur, Alliance for Affordable Internet A4AI
- Carlos Rey-Moreno, APC
- Rolf Weber, University of Zurich
- Senka Hadzic, Research ICT Africa
- Quirilo (please add surname and affiliation here)
If I missed anything or anyone, if you want to propose any changes or express your
interest to write an essay and being a speaker, please do it by tomorrow
Thanks a lot!
Luca
PS: FYI, the confirmed panellists and authors of the part of the outcome report that will
deal more specifically with net neutrality issues are
- Sebastien Soriano, French Telecoms Regulator (ARCEP)
- Frode Sorensen, Norwegian Telecoms Regulator (Nkom)
- Smriti Parsheera, National Institute of Public Finance and Policy in New Delhi
- Anya Orlova and Andrey Shecherbovich Moscow Higher School of Economics
- Apar Gupta and Sidharth, Internet Freedom Foundation
- Alejandro Pisanty, Autonomous University of Mexico
- Estelle Masse and Eric Null, Access Now
________________________________________
De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net] em nome de Luca
Belli [luca.belli(a)fgv.br]
Enviado: quarta-feira, 15 de abril de 2020 16:32
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
Assunto: [DC3] RES: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Hi Quiliro and CA
Very interesting ideas to explore!
Actually you may want to check also ETSI's work on NonIP (which is very similar to
Huawei"s proposal although it attacted almost no attention...)
https://www.etsi.org/newsroom/press-releases/1749-2020-04-etsi-launches-new…
Please, feel free to send your draft!
All the best
Luca
________________________________________
De: dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net [dc3-bounces(a)listas.altermundi.net] em nome de
Carlos Afonso [ca(a)cafonso.ca]
Enviado: quarta-feira, 15 de abril de 2020 12:38
Para: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
Assunto: Re: [DC3] Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Do it! :-)
Right now there is a rumor coming from China which proposes an entirely new
transport/addressing set of protocols, called NewIP.
If this came to be, it would be like a sort of coronavirus for so many devices. Billions
of devices currently connected to the Internet survived the jump to IPv6. However, most of
them were built by companies that do not upgrade their firmware, or have disappeared. I
own a Samsung Galaxy Tab which firmware/OS has never been updated by Samsung (BTW, a
vulnerability of most of the Android devices). Now I use it as a Kindle reader, and just
connect it to the Net when I wish to update my e-book repository. Would it connect in the
NewIP world? Probably not, and for most people this is an expensive device.
I would like to read articles about this.
fraternal regards
--c.a.
On 15/04/2020 12:03, quiliro wrote:
I would like to write an article on the need to create a governanceless
internet in order to avoid centralized collapse.
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3(a)listas.altermundi.net
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--
Carlos A. Afonso
[emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente indicado em contrário]
[emails are personal unless explicitly indicated otherwise]
Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
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15 Apr
15 Apr
4:16 p.m.
New subject: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Dear Quulro,
In writing an article on this theme, it might be helpful to pay intricate
attentiin to the words in the text. Someone, in a certain context pointed
out to me that even a positive word such as "open" could be misinterpreted
by policy makers. Even with a modified on the idea of "governanceless
Internet", with a capital "I" by the way, the ideas, even if flawless can
variously chacterized, ranging from "progressive thought' in a positive
sense to 'revolutionary ideas" in a negative sense.
If this is about CNs, you might wish to take some feedback before you print
thought that is a step that I almost never take. :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 20:33 quiliro <quiliro(a)riseup.net> wrote:
I would like to write an article on the need to create a governanceless
internet in order to avoid centralized collapse.
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4:18 p.m.
New subject: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 21:46 Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
indiachennaix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
that is a step that I almost never take. :)
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 20:33 quiliro <quiliro(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> I would like to write an article on the need to create a governanceless
>> internet in order to avoid centralized collapse.
>> _______________________________________________
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Dear Quulro,
In writing an article on this theme, it might be helpful to pay intricate
attentiin
attention
to the words in the text. Someone, in a certain
context pointed out to me
that even a positive word such as "open" could be misinterpreted by policy
makers. Even with a modified
title
on the idea of "governanceless Internet",
with a capital "I" by the way,
the ideas, even if flawless
,
can
be
variously chacterized, ranging from "progressive
thought' in a positive
sense
,
to 'revolutionary ideas" in a negative
sense.
If this is about CNs, you might wish to take some feedback before you
print
though
9:26 p.m.
New subject: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
Hi Luca, maybe its relevant to remember some cases of open networks in
the context of emergency, calamity and disaster situations, cause a lot
of countries are signed in the Tampere Convention, that treats about
telecom infrastructure in that cases.
Almost all those countries have regulations about it. Here in Brazil is
the resolution 656/2015 from Anatel.
In USA, during the Katrina hurricane, there are informations how the CNs
saved people in there. If I remember well was the Commotion Wireless
project from OTI.
The focus need to be the Covid19, but, it is an oportunity the expand
the debate to all kind of emergencies... what do u think?
BR
Marcelo Saldanha
IBEBrasil
Em 14/04/2020 11:49, Luca Belli escreveu:
Dear all,
I hope this email finds you well and in good health in these troubled
times.
This message is to start a discussion regarding the work to be developed
as *IGF 2020 output* of the *coalition *and the organisation of the
annual IGF meeting.
As you might know, the IGF Secretariat recently issued its call for
proposals for workshops and DC meetings for the next IGF, which should
in principle (Coronavirus permitting) take place in Poland on 2-6 November.
As the current covid19 pandemic offers concrete evidence of the
incredible importance of being connected, I would like to propose a
*Symposium *dedicated to *“Covd19 and Internet Openness”*.
The Symposium will be a collection of short essays showing the
incredible value of non-discriminatory connectivity as well as the
incredible potential of alternative connectivity models, such as
community networks. For this reason, I would suggest developing the
initiative as a partnership between 2 coalitions I coordinate within the
IGF (the one on Net Neutrality and the one on Community Connectivity) as
they represent complementary facets of the same debate.
The *authors of the essays will be listed as speakers* for the IGF
session of the coalition.
I have been talking about the initiative with some of you directly and I
am happy to say that we will be able to publish the *essays online on
MediaNama* (largest tech & policy portal in India) as soon as we receive
and edit them, and that MediaNama’s Founder and Editor Nikhil Pahwa has
kindly agreed to co-edit the essays with me. After the publication
online, we could collect all the essays (ideally between 10 and 15) and
publish them in a *booklet on“Covd19 and the Value of Internet
Openness*” to be released at the IGF (if the IGF will be maintained) and
freely accessible online. Everything will be licensed in CC, of course.
The suggestion is to explore a variety of ongoing issues going from
blocking and Internet shutdowns, to zero rating and net neutrality,
community network experiences and new conceptualisations of Internet
access as a human right.
I have already spoken with some of you and there are a lot of good ideas
already in the air.
Here is the *suggested format.*
* Essays can be *1000 to 1500 words* in length. If you require more
words, please consider making your contribution into *a two-part post*.
* Please only use *in-text citations or hyperlinks* (i.e., no footnotes).
* To take advantage of the momentum, I suggest fixing a deadline (at
least for the first batch of) submissions on *Wednesday 25 April. *
*Those confirming their interest in writing an essay by the 22nd (and
sending the first draft by the 25th) will be considered as speakers for
the coalition IGF session. The 22nd is the dealine to submit a session
proposal.*
Please, feel free share your thoughts on this
All the best
Luca
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16 Apr
16 Apr
6:48 a.m.
New subject: Covid19 and Internet Openness IGF 2020 Outcome
One neat story we were (lightly) involved with was a deployment of Open5GS
in support of a COVID quarantine area:
https://github.com/open5gs/open5gs/issues/360
I'm not sure if we're the one to tell the story but it is a compelling case
for the value of open-source telecom.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:26 PM Instituto Bem Estar Brasil <
instituto(a)bemestarbrasil.org.br> wrote:
Hi Luca, maybe its relevant to remember some cases of
open networks in
the context of emergency, calamity and disaster situations, cause a lot
of countries are signed in the Tampere Convention, that treats about
telecom infrastructure in that cases.
Almost all those countries have regulations about it. Here in Brazil is
the resolution 656/2015 from Anatel.
In USA, during the Katrina hurricane, there are informations how the CNs
saved people in there. If I remember well was the Commotion Wireless
project from OTI.
The focus need to be the Covid19, but, it is an oportunity the expand
the debate to all kind of emergencies... what do u think?
BR
Marcelo Saldanha
IBEBrasil
Em 14/04/2020 11:49, Luca Belli escreveu:
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Dear all,
I hope this email finds you well and in good health in these troubled
times.
This message is to start a discussion regarding the work to be developed
as *IGF 2020 output* of the *coalition *and the organisation of the
annual IGF meeting.
As you might know, the IGF Secretariat recently issued its call for
proposals for workshops and DC meetings for the next IGF, which should
in principle (Coronavirus permitting) take place in Poland on 2-6
November.
As the current covid19 pandemic offers concrete evidence of the
incredible importance of being connected, I would like to propose a
*Symposium *dedicated to *“Covd19 and Internet Openness”*.
The Symposium will be a collection of short essays showing the
incredible value of non-discriminatory connectivity as well as the
incredible potential of alternative connectivity models, such as
community networks. For this reason, I would suggest developing the
initiative as a partnership between 2 coalitions I coordinate within the
IGF (the one on Net Neutrality and the one on Community Connectivity) as
they represent complementary facets of the same debate.
The *authors of the essays will be listed as speakers* for the IGF
session of the coalition.
I have been talking about the initiative with some of you directly and I
am happy to say that we will be able to publish the *essays online on
MediaNama* (largest tech & policy portal in India) as soon as we receive
and edit them, and that MediaNama’s Founder and Editor Nikhil Pahwa has
kindly agreed to co-edit the essays with me. After the publication
online, we could collect all the essays (ideally between 10 and 15) and
publish them in a *booklet on“Covd19 and the Value of Internet
Openness*” to be released at the IGF (if the IGF will be maintained) and
freely accessible online. Everything will be licensed in CC, of course.
The suggestion is to explore a variety of ongoing issues going from
blocking and Internet shutdowns, to zero rating and net neutrality,
community network experiences and new conceptualisations of Internet
access as a human right.
I have already spoken with some of you and there are a lot of good ideas
already in the air.
Here is the *suggested format.*
* Essays can be *1000 to 1500 words* in length. If you require more
words, please consider making your contribution into *a two-part
post*.
* Please only use *in-text citations or
hyperlinks* (i.e., no
footnotes).
* To take advantage of the momentum, I suggest
fixing a deadline (at
least for the first batch of) submissions on *Wednesday 25 April. *
*Those confirming their interest in writing an essay by the 22nd (and
sending the first draft by the 25th) will be considered as speakers for
the coalition IGF session. The 22nd is the dealine to submit a session
proposal.*
Please, feel free share your thoughts on this
All the best
Luca
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