Regards
Shaun
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From: Shaun Pather <spather(a)uwc.ac.za>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 17:10
Subject: Summary: meeting at Gaite Lyrique (15 Nov 2018)
To: Carlos Rey-Moreno <carlos(a)apc.org>, Carlos Rey-Moreno <
carlos.reymoreno(a)gmail.com>
*Report back session *
*Group : CN Summit*
· Use pf the declaration and its purpose
· How to get everyone involved
· Levelling the playing field
· Need an oversight committee for preparatory process
· Must be a bottom up from regions to global
· Focus on commonalities
· Build on previous initiatives
· Gathering needed before the summit of the CNs – spaces to
accommodate local circumstances
· Risk – stress in the process may backfire
· Should not start with a blank page – but needs a framework document
to be setup
· Wireless international group is already meeting – need to ensure
their inclusion
· Role of woman to shape the process
*Group: Inclusivity*
· Inclusivity is a broad issue: Gender, territorial, Language
· Gender: Cultural constrains in general is noted; needs to be a
deepening of understanding of power relationships and roles of different
members of society in each region
· CN definition to help people realise if they need to be part of the
process
· Energy on putting action on sensitive groups – to empower
marginalised people in more roles
· Technologies that can be made your own has an important role e.g.
Alta Mundi
· As a collective of CNs – need to reflect more on what it means to
be more diverse and inclusive
· Actions must be undertaken as close to the ground as possible e.g.
local content process
· Regional diversity: No representation of the Asia-Pacific region –
must be addressed; note several examples from this region in GisWatch
· Language diversity: Regional discussions are very important;
therefore work at the regional level – before global level; noted that
Francophone not represented – must be addressed; See Alta Mundi translation
project – where communities undertook translation.
· Race is also an issue to be addressed
*Group: Policy *
· Work at national and regional level to obtain access to fibre and
spectrum – provide exemplars (write up cases) as to how this can be done
for others to learn from
· Similarly access to USFs – which must be more flexible in what they
fund e.g. skills development, tech development
· Spectrum Access: Has to be taken to regulators and a wider
community of stakeholders; therefore need to provide some information pack
in this regard
· Access to backhaul: Bring cases that can demonstrate benefits of
access; try to make governments look good in the process;
· Select best practice cases from different countries and provide
such info to government
· Problem of treating first nations as a country within a country
must be addressed
· GisWatch / or continuation can be used for advocacy purposes
*Report back session *
*Group : CN Summit*
· Use pf the declaration and its purpose
· How to get everyone involved
· Levelling the playing field
· Need an oversight committee for preparatory process
· Must be a bottom up from regions to global
· Focus on commonalities
· Build on previous initiatives
· Gathering needed before the summit of the CNs – spaces to
accommodate local circumstances
· Risk – stress in the process may backfire
· Should not start with a blank page – but needs a framework document
to be setup
· Wireless international group is already meeting – need to ensure
their inclusion
· Role of woman to shape the process
*Group: Inclusivity*
· Inclusivity is a broad issue: Gender, territorial, Language
· Gender: Cultural constrains in general is noted; needs to be a
deepening of understanding of power relationships and roles of different
members of society in each region
· CN definition to help people realise if they need to be part of the
process
· Energy on putting action on sensitive groups – to empower
marginalised people in more roles
· Technologies that can be made your own has an important role e.g.
Alta Mundi
· As a collective of CNs – need to reflect more on what it means to
be more diverse and inclusive
· Actions must be undertaken as close to the ground as possible e.g.
local content process
· Regional diversity: No representation of the Asia-Pacific region –
must be addressed; note several examples from this region in GisWatch
· Language diversity: Regional discussions are very important;
therefore work at the regional level – before global level; noted that
Francophone not represented – must be addressed; See Alta Mundi translation
project – where communities undertook translation.
· Race is also an issue to be addressed
*Group: Policy *
· Work at national and regional level to obtain access to fibre and
spectrum – provide exemplars (write up cases) as to how this can be done
for others to learn from
· Similarly access to USFs – which must be more flexible in what they
fund e.g. skills development, tech development
· Spectrum Access: Has to be taken to regulators and a wider
community of stakeholders; therefore need to provide some information pack
in this regard
· Access to backhaul: Bring cases that can demonstrate benefits of
access; try to make governments look good in the process;
· Select best practice cases from different countries and provide
such info to government
· Problem of treating first nations as a country within a country
must be addressed
· GisWatch / or continuation can be used for advocacy purposes
Regards
Shaun
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Dear council members,
FFDN is requesting to be allowed to join the CNSIG.
Out of reading about their work and their application, I would support it's participation.
Regards
-------- Mensaje Original --------
De: Daniele Pitrolo <franciliens(a)pitrolo.it>
Enviado: 7 de septiembre de 2019 15:29:02 ART
Para: Nicolas Pace <nicopace(a)altermundi.net>
Asunto: Re: FFDN dans CNSig
On 08/07/19 16:08, Nicolas Pace wrote:
> Hi Daniele,
Hello Nicolas,
> Thanks for your interest of how the CNSIG council joining process is.
> The process requires FFDN to send a member of the CNSIG (me will do) the
> answer to a set of questions. They will be presented to the CNSIG
> council and based on them and the endorsements the members might give
> the proposal is accepted or not.
> I urge you to send us the answers so i can forward it right away!
Sure!
Well, the last question complicated things a bit, since we have 4
persons interested and not yet decided who the 3 representatives will be.
> Name of the organization:
FFDN (Fédération FDN)
https://www.ffdn.org/
> Country where you operate:
France, Belgium
> Brief description:
Federation of non-profit community ISPs
Created in 2010 starting from the oldest active French ISP (FDN, founded
in 1992) when, instead of growing in numbers, it was decided that it
would spread and create other like-minded ISPs.
We are now around 30 community ISPs gathering more than 4000 persons.
We operate through wifi bridges, telephonic lines (state-owned but with
a public service obligation), and fiber. Our different ISPs
> Areas of interest:
Volounteering, non for profit, solidarity, democratic functioning,
community networks,
participatory network governance, network regulation, fiber access
networks, network neutrality, regional digital planning, freedom of
speech on the internet, knowledge sharing.
FFDN and the ISPs member led several judicial actions in order to have
the judicial power censor some laws that they considered as liberticide,
regularly replies to the telecommunication regulator requests for
comments, tries to influence the legislative process by bringing the
voice of those who need internet access as a right and not as a market
product.
> Representatives (up to 3):
We have 4 persons who expressed interest in representing the FFDN. Just
discovered that there should be only 3, I have asked them to discuss
that internally.
* Félix Tréguer: co-founder of La Quadrature du Net (a French EFF),
member of FDN (oldest active French ISP, community-owned), researcher
(participated in the European NetCommons project), member of a working
group who led several judicial actions to force the abolition of
anticonstitutional laws
* Vi: member of La Quadrature du Net (a French EFF), researcher
(participated in the European NetCommons project), member of a working
group who led several judicial actions to force the abolition of
anticonstitutional laws, member of Franciliens.net (community ISP in the
Paris region), participated in the Battlemesh 12 organization
* Baptiste Jonglez: researcher, participated in the Babel 9
implementation, participated in the Battlemesh 12 organization,
organized Babel Wireless Mesh hackathon in 2013, member of several
community ISPs, and especially Rézine (Grenoble area)
* Korbak: member of the community ISP in the Bordeaux area
> Be as descriptive as possible, this will allow us to know you better.
Tried to!
Let me know if you need me to expend some paragraphs.
Bests,
Daniele
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Hello all,
as the time approaches to make arrangements for the 14th IGF I would like
to start a discussion about the proposed dates to be there, as well as the
CN-related events that will take place. The IGF will take place from 25 -
29 of November in Berlin.
Are we going to plan for a CNSIG meeting afterwards, i.e. on the 30th?
Who are coming to IGF?
Cheers,
*Vassilis Chryssos*
Board Member / Administrator
*Sarantaporo.gr Non Profit Organization*
28 Karaiskaki str., 10554 Psirri, Athens, Greece
Tel: +30 211 8002730, Mob: +30 694 794 8786
Email: vchryssos(a)sarantaporo.gr, Web: www.sarantaporo.gr
Hi council,
wanted to share a project that APC is starting for us all.
Hope it is useful!
===
### English
We are happy to share with you some exciting news. We are launching a
new platform that we believe will be really useful for you:
[communitynetworks.group](https://communitynetworks.group).
For some time we have been discussing in many spaces how we can better
share this path of community networks. Several spaces came up in those
conversations (for example, WhatsApp groups or mailing lists).
>From APC, we designed a platform that could be available for us all to
contribute collectively to the public exchange of experiences. The aim
is to help build up a collaborative movement around community networks.
This space is meant to facilitate a type of central and open place for
conversations to happen. Currently, these chats are taking place either
privately or in a rather scattered or disorganised manner. The platform
is meant to bring those discussions together and make it easy to follow
up on conversational threads – we can definitely move forward better and
in a more coordinated way! That is why we are inviting you all to join
[communitynetworks.group](https://communitynetworks.group)
[communitynetworks.group](https://communitynetworks.group) is a forum
that will allow us to share our ideas, discuss the relevant topics that
matter to us and invite whoever we wish to the topics that we care most
about.
We bootstrapped some conversations already so you can jump in to your
interests, like [Setting up wifi in rural area South
Africa](https://communitynetworks.group/t/setting-up-wifi-in-rural-area-south-africa/33),
[Directory of Community
Networks](https://communitynetworks.group/t/directory-of-community-networks/27).
You can also bring your own topics and build a community around them.
We are inviting Community Networks activists from all over the world to
help us raise awareness by forwarding this message to your fellow
friends and colleagues.
We are eager to hear from you in the public forum and to build this
space for us all learn and share together.
See you in there!
[communitynetworks.group](https://communitynetworks.group)
### Spanish
Estamos muy emocionados/as por compartir con ustedes buenas noticias.
Estamos lanzando una plataforma de extrema utilidad para ustedes:
communitynetworks.group
Durante algún tiempo hemos estado discutiendo en muchos espacios sobre
cómo compartimos este camino de las redes comunitarias, y varios
espacios han surgido de esas conversaciones (grupos de Whatsapp, listas
de correo).
Desde APC nos gustaría ayudarnos a que el movimiento tenga una manera de
organizar estas conversaciones para que podamos avanzar mejor, de una
manera más coordinada.
Es por eso que nos estamos invitando a todos a
https://communitynetworks.group
communitynetworks.group es un foro que nos permitirá compartir nuestras
ideas, debatir sobre los temas que importamos e invitar a quienes
necesitemos a los temas que nos interesan.
Ya iniciamos algunas conversaciones para que pueda ir directo a lo que
les importa, como [Configurar wifi en el área rural de
Sudáfrica](https://communitynetworks.group/t/setting-up-wifi-in-rural-area-south-africa/33),
[Directorio de redes
comunitarias](https://communitynetworks.group/t/directory-of-community-networks/27)
y más. También puedes traer tus propios temas y construir una comunidad
alrededor de ellos.
Por el momento la interfaz del foro se encuentra en inglés. Somos
conscientes que este no es el idioma que todos dominan (ni que debería
ser así), por lo que estamos trabajando para hacer que el foro sea más
inclusivo para todos/as. Por lo pronto, les invitamos a publicar sus
mensajes en su idioma y quedaremos atentos/as para ayudar a que eso sea
fluido.
Estamos invitando a activistas de redes comunitarias de todo el mundo a
unirse y pedimos ayuda en la difusión, solicitando que por favor envíen
este mensaje a sus compañeros/as.
Aguardamos con ansias encontrarte en el foro público y construir este
espacio juntos/as.
¡Nos vemos allí!
https://communitynetworks.group
### Portugues
Quero compartilhar com você uma plataforma que acreditamos ser muito
útil para todos, communitynetworks.group
Há algum tempo estamos discutindo em muitos espaços sobre como
compartilhamos esse caminho de redes comunitárias, e vários espaços
emergiram dessas conversas (grupos WhatsApp, listas de discussão).
Da APC, gostaríamos de ajudar o movimento a organizar essas conversas
para que possamos avançar melhor, de maneira mais coordenada.
É por isso que estamos convidando a todos para
https://communitynetworks.group
O communitynetworks.group é um fórum que nos permitirá compartilhar
nossas ideias, discutir os problemas que importamos e convidar aqueles
que precisamos para os tópicos que nos interessam.
Já iniciamos algumas conversas para que você possa ir diretamente para o
que é importante para você, como [Configurar o Wi-Fi na área rural da
África do
Sul](https://communitynetworks.group/t/setting-up-wifi-in-rural-area-south-africa/33),
[Diretório de redes
comunitárias](https://communitynetworks.group/t/directory-of-community-networks/27)
e muito mais, e também trazer seus próprios temas e construir uma
comunidade .
No momento, a interface do fórum está em inglês. Estamos conscientes de
que esta não é a língua que todos falam (nem deveria ser assim), por
isso estamos trabalhando para tornar o fórum mais inclusivo para todos.
Por enquanto, nós convidamos você a postar suas mensagens em seu idioma,
estaremos atentos para ajudar que é fluido.
Estamos convidando ativistas de redes comunitárias de todo o mundo,
ajudando-nos a espalhar o mundo e enviando esta mensagem para seus colegas.
Estamos ansiosos para conhecê-lo no fórum público e construir este
espaço juntos.
Vemo-nos ali!
https://communitynetworks.group
