Regards
Shaun
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From: Shaun Pather <spather(a)uwc.ac.za>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018, 17:10
Subject: Summary: meeting at Gaite Lyrique (15 Nov 2018)
To: Carlos Rey-Moreno <carlos(a)apc.org>, Carlos Rey-Moreno <
carlos.reymoreno(a)gmail.com>
*Report back session *
*Group : CN Summit*
· Use pf the declaration and its purpose
· How to get everyone involved
· Levelling the playing field
· Need an oversight committee for preparatory process
· Must be a bottom up from regions to global
· Focus on commonalities
· Build on previous initiatives
· Gathering needed before the summit of the CNs – spaces to
accommodate local circumstances
· Risk – stress in the process may backfire
· Should not start with a blank page – but needs a framework document
to be setup
· Wireless international group is already meeting – need to ensure
their inclusion
· Role of woman to shape the process
*Group: Inclusivity*
· Inclusivity is a broad issue: Gender, territorial, Language
· Gender: Cultural constrains in general is noted; needs to be a
deepening of understanding of power relationships and roles of different
members of society in each region
· CN definition to help people realise if they need to be part of the
process
· Energy on putting action on sensitive groups – to empower
marginalised people in more roles
· Technologies that can be made your own has an important role e.g.
Alta Mundi
· As a collective of CNs – need to reflect more on what it means to
be more diverse and inclusive
· Actions must be undertaken as close to the ground as possible e.g.
local content process
· Regional diversity: No representation of the Asia-Pacific region –
must be addressed; note several examples from this region in GisWatch
· Language diversity: Regional discussions are very important;
therefore work at the regional level – before global level; noted that
Francophone not represented – must be addressed; See Alta Mundi translation
project – where communities undertook translation.
· Race is also an issue to be addressed
*Group: Policy *
· Work at national and regional level to obtain access to fibre and
spectrum – provide exemplars (write up cases) as to how this can be done
for others to learn from
· Similarly access to USFs – which must be more flexible in what they
fund e.g. skills development, tech development
· Spectrum Access: Has to be taken to regulators and a wider
community of stakeholders; therefore need to provide some information pack
in this regard
· Access to backhaul: Bring cases that can demonstrate benefits of
access; try to make governments look good in the process;
· Select best practice cases from different countries and provide
such info to government
· Problem of treating first nations as a country within a country
must be addressed
· GisWatch / or continuation can be used for advocacy purposes
*Report back session *
*Group : CN Summit*
· Use pf the declaration and its purpose
· How to get everyone involved
· Levelling the playing field
· Need an oversight committee for preparatory process
· Must be a bottom up from regions to global
· Focus on commonalities
· Build on previous initiatives
· Gathering needed before the summit of the CNs – spaces to
accommodate local circumstances
· Risk – stress in the process may backfire
· Should not start with a blank page – but needs a framework document
to be setup
· Wireless international group is already meeting – need to ensure
their inclusion
· Role of woman to shape the process
*Group: Inclusivity*
· Inclusivity is a broad issue: Gender, territorial, Language
· Gender: Cultural constrains in general is noted; needs to be a
deepening of understanding of power relationships and roles of different
members of society in each region
· CN definition to help people realise if they need to be part of the
process
· Energy on putting action on sensitive groups – to empower
marginalised people in more roles
· Technologies that can be made your own has an important role e.g.
Alta Mundi
· As a collective of CNs – need to reflect more on what it means to
be more diverse and inclusive
· Actions must be undertaken as close to the ground as possible e.g.
local content process
· Regional diversity: No representation of the Asia-Pacific region –
must be addressed; note several examples from this region in GisWatch
· Language diversity: Regional discussions are very important;
therefore work at the regional level – before global level; noted that
Francophone not represented – must be addressed; See Alta Mundi translation
project – where communities undertook translation.
· Race is also an issue to be addressed
*Group: Policy *
· Work at national and regional level to obtain access to fibre and
spectrum – provide exemplars (write up cases) as to how this can be done
for others to learn from
· Similarly access to USFs – which must be more flexible in what they
fund e.g. skills development, tech development
· Spectrum Access: Has to be taken to regulators and a wider
community of stakeholders; therefore need to provide some information pack
in this regard
· Access to backhaul: Bring cases that can demonstrate benefits of
access; try to make governments look good in the process;
· Select best practice cases from different countries and provide
such info to government
· Problem of treating first nations as a country within a country
must be addressed
· GisWatch / or continuation can be used for advocacy purposes
Regards
Shaun
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ENGLISH
Sarbani has a problem with the list, meanwhile I share with you her email...
Also, Sarbani and Sol Luca de Tena (she is not available for sending
mails for personal reasons) have aproved the document (by chat), and
they confirmed their assistance to the webinar on July 28th.
We can´t apply for chapter&sigs ISOC grants, because we don´t have a
legal entity nor bank account...
I will share with ISOC the activity plan as it is, we have no more time.
Then, we can check if we want/need to do something different. But this
burocracy is urgent...
Cheers!
-------------------------------------
SPANISH
Sarbani tiene un problema con la lista de correos, mientras tanto... les
comparto su mail.
También, Sarbani y Sol Luca de Tena (quien no puede enviar correos por
razones personales) aprueban el documento (lo hemos conversado por
chat), y ambas han confirmado que asistirán al webinar del 28 de julio.
Nosotros no podemos aplicar a los grants de ISOC para chapters y sigs
porque no tenemos entidad legal ni cuenta bancaria.
Compartiré con ISOC el plan de actividades como está en el pad ahora, ya
que no nos queda más tiempo. Luego, podemos confirmar si queremos o
necesitamos hacer algo diferente, pero este trámite es urgente...
Saludos!
Il 30/06/20 00:18, Sarbani Banerjee Belur ha scritto:
> Hi Jessi,
> Can we apply for ISOC grants too?
>
> Regards,
> Sarbani
>
> On 30 June 2020 03:04:19 GMT+05:30, Jesica <giudicejesica(a)altermundi.net> wrote:
>> Pleople,
>>
>> We have only a few ours to give to ISOC our 2020 activity plan.
>>
>> We were discussing with BrunoV and NicoE, and writting a proposal.
>> Kindly find it attached here:
>> https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities (Spanish, English and
>> Portuguese available...)
>>
>> Is it okey for you? Any changes? Any comment?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gente,
>>
>> solo tenemos uns horas para responder a ISOC con nuestro plan de
>> actividades 2020.
>>
>> Hemos estado conversando con BrunoV y NicoE, y escribiendo una
>> propuesta. La pueden encontrar aqui:
>> https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities (disponible en español,
>> inglés y portugues).
>>
>> Les parece que está bien? tienen algún comentario o cambio?
Pleople,
We have only a few ours to give to ISOC our 2020 activity plan.
We were discussing with BrunoV and NicoE, and writting a proposal.
Kindly find it attached here:
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities (Spanish, English and
Portuguese available...)
Is it okey for you? Any changes? Any comment?
-------------------------
Gente,
solo tenemos uns horas para responder a ISOC con nuestro plan de
actividades 2020.
Hemos estado conversando con BrunoV y NicoE, y escribiendo una
propuesta. La pueden encontrar aqui:
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities (disponible en español,
inglés y portugues).
Les parece que está bien? tienen algún comentario o cambio?
Pleople,
We have only a few ours to give to ISOC our 2020 activity plan.
We were discussing with BrunoV and NicoE, and writting a proposal.
Kindly find it attached here:
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities (Spanish, English and
Portuguese available...)
Is it okey for you? Any changes? Any comment?
Gente,
solo tenemos uns horas para responder a ISOC con nuestro plan de
actividades 2020.
Hemos estado conversando con BrunoV y NicoE, y escribiendo una
propuesta. La pueden encontrar aqui:
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities (disponible en español,
inglés y portugues).
Les parece que está bien? tienen algún comentario o cambio?
If you accept my proposal, a possible blog entry could be...
(Sorry for the untimely proposal ... we are running out of time)
*Community Networks Webinar*
Presentation and debate between representatives of community networks
and organizations promoting community networks.
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2020
Time: 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. UTC
Topics:
* State of our organizations and community networks.
* Current needs and problems.
* Strategies for promoting community networks.
* Actions on regulatory incidence in our countries.
* Community networks and public policies.
More details will be published soon.
-------------------------------------------------
Reunión virtual de Redes Comunitarias
Presentación y debate entre representantes de redes comunitarias y
organizaciones promotoras de redes comunitarias.
Fecha: martes 28 de Julio, 2020
Hora: 11:00am a 13:00 p.m. UTC
Temas a tratar:
* Estado de nuestas organizaciones y redes comunitarias.
* Necesidades y problemas actuales.
* Estrategias para promoción de redes comunitarias.
* Acciones sobre incidencia regulatoria en nuestros países.
* Redes comunitarias y políticas públicas.
Más detalles serán publicados pronto.
-------- Messaggio Inoltrato --------
Oggetto: URGENT blog entry TODAY!!!
Data: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 21:38:35 -0300
Mittente: Jesica <giudicejesica(a)altermundi.net>
A: CNSIG Council <council(a)lists.cnsig.info>
English (Español abajo)
---------------------
Dears,
there is an urgent need to add a blog post on cnsig.info, referring to
an activity of this year.
Finally ISOC were able to express clearly that this was what they were
expecting, however, I cannot spend the day publishing something that has
already happened. I propose to you to take the opportunity to hold a
virtual meeting to discuss what we are in, what we need, what strategies
we envision for the promotion and sustainability of community networks.
To say a date, I propose Tuesday July 28, 2020, 11UTC.
Any other proposal that can be followed in 24 hours? Do you want to
carry out this meeting, even if some other proposal comes up?
By publishing the projection of this meeting, I think it is enough for
ISOC's demands.
---------------
Español
Queridos,
es urgente agregar una entrada de blog en cnsig.info, con referencia a
una actividad de este año.
Recién pudieron de ISOC expresar claramente que esto era lo que estaban
esperando, sin embargo, no puedo dedicarme el día a publicar algo que ya
haya sucedido. Les propongo aprovechar la oportunidad para realizar una
reunión virtual para contarnos en qué estamos, qué necesitamos, qué
estrategias visualizamos para la promoción y sostenibilidad de las redes
comunitarias. Por decir una fecha, propongo el martes 28 de julio de
2020, 11UTC.
Alguna otra propuesta que le puedan dar curso en 24hs? Les parece si
llevamos adelante esta reunión, sea la única propuesta o así surja
alguna otra?
Con publicar la proyección de esta reunión, creo que es suficiente para
las exigencias de ISOC.
English (Español abajo)
---------------------
Dears,
there is an urgent need to add a blog post on cnsig.info, referring to
an activity of this year.
Finally ISOC were able to express clearly that this was what they were
expecting, however, I cannot spend the day publishing something that has
already happened. I propose to you to take the opportunity to hold a
virtual meeting to discuss what we are in, what we need, what strategies
we envision for the promotion and sustainability of community networks.
To say a date, I propose Tuesday July 28, 2020, 11UTC.
Any other proposal that can be followed in 24 hours? Do you want to
carry out this meeting, even if some other proposal comes up?
By publishing the projection of this meeting, I think it is enough for
ISOC's demands.
---------------
Español
Queridos,
es urgente agregar una entrada de blog en cnsig.info, con referencia a
una actividad de este año.
Recién pudieron de ISOC expresar claramente que esto era lo que estaban
esperando, sin embargo, no puedo dedicarme el día a publicar algo que ya
haya sucedido. Les propongo aprovechar la oportunidad para realizar una
reunión virtual para contarnos en qué estamos, qué necesitamos, qué
estrategias visualizamos para la promoción y sostenibilidad de las redes
comunitarias. Por decir una fecha, propongo el martes 28 de julio de
2020, 11UTC.
Alguna otra propuesta que le puedan dar curso en 24hs? Les parece si
llevamos adelante esta reunión, sea la única propuesta o así surja
alguna otra?
Con publicar la proyección de esta reunión, creo que es suficiente para
las exigencias de ISOC.
Dears,
We all must focus on completing the 2019 activity report and the
proposal for 2020 (adding there what we have already done this year, to
report it at the end of this year). The pad is here:
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_activities
I propose that we all complete with the information from our
organization within the next 20 hours? counting from now.
Please add links so that we can also update the cnsig.info site.
If you need a meeting, I´m in :)
Message received, Sarbani. Thank you!
Karla Velasco Ramos
www.redesac.org.mx
+52 1 55 36 66 69 24
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:27 PM Sarbani Banerjee Belur <
sarbanibelur(a)iitb.ac.in> wrote:
> I too am interested. Have been trying to send you this email. But have not
> been able to do so. Hopefully this email reaches.
> With regards,
> Sarbani
>
> On 28 May 2020 22:47:54 GMT+05:30, Karla Velasco <karlavelascor(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for clarifying Sol! So this means two spots would be available,
>> is this correct? Sol's and mine. Jesi and Bruno have shown interest in the
>> positions. Anyone else?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Karla Velasco Ramos
>> www.redesac.org.mx
>> +52 1 55 36 66 69 24
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 6:34 AM Sol Luca de Tena <sol(a)zenzeleni.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karla just to answer your query. I did step down at the end of the 2
>>> year period in my role. We also informed ISOC of my stepping down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Sol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* council-bounces(a)lists.cnsig.info [mailto:
>>> council-bounces(a)lists.cnsig.info] *On Behalf Of *bruno vianna
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:24 AM
>>> *To:* CNSIG Council
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CNSIG-Council] Fwd: [decision] Deadline approaching to
>>> complete SIG evaluation items
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd been trying to post to the list without much success, I hope this
>>> mail goes through.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I support the solution and I'm available for either position, council or
>>> treasurer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:58 AM Karla Velasco <karlavelascor(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds good to me. From what I understand, Sol stepped down so one of
>>> the places is free but I'm not entirely sure this happened, can someone
>>> confirm?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this indeed happened, you could take that place, Jesi, as you have
>>> shown interest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't remember if others showed interest. I'm the treasurer and can
>>> step down as well, if anyone wants to take my place.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Karla Velasco Ramos
>>>
>>> www.redesac.org.mx
>>>
>>> +52 1 55 36 66 69 24
>>>
>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 5:38 PM Jesica <giudicejesica(a)altermundi.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If this is the fourth re-election period, the payroll can still be
>>> repeated, if a justification is added.
>>> I think that saying that since we do not have official status, we cannot
>>> have our own account and we cannot request financing from the cnsig, we do
>>> not see the risk of continuing one more period as we are, committing
>>> ourselves to renew the charges for the next period.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Si este fuera el cuarto período de re-elección, igual se puede repetir
>>> la nómina, si se agregar un justificativo.
>>>
>>> Creo que decir que al no tener oficializada la personería, no poder
>>> tener cuenta propia y no poder solicitar financiamiento desde el cnsig, no
>>> vemos el riesgo en continuar un período más así como estamos,
>>> comprometiéndonos a renovar los cargos para el próximo período.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 21/05/20 17:12, Jesica ha scritto:
>>>
>>> ENGLIS (SPANISH BELOW)
>>>
>>> Hi everyone :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)
>>>
>>> The council can be reelected for three consecutive periods, so I
>>>
>>> understand that we can hold the same council list for another year.
>>>
>>> So I propose that...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2)
>>>
>>> Other thing I want to tell us that Lilian Chamorro Rojas, from Colnodo
>>>
>>> (Colombia), and Ana Muller, from Mesa de Comunicación Popular de Salta y
>>>
>>> Jujuy (Argentina) want to join to cnsig. Is that possible? Just add that
>>>
>>> both are willing to join the council if it would help to maintain this
>>>
>>> space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jesi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> SPANISH
>>>
>>> Hola a todos :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)
>>>
>>> El consejo puede ser reelegido por tres períodos consecutivos, por lo
>>>
>>> que entiendo que podemos mantener la misma lista por otro año.
>>>
>>> Entonces propongo eso...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2)
>>>
>>> Otra cosa que quiero contarles es que Lilian Chamorro Rojas, de Colnodo
>>>
>>> (Colombia), y Ana Muller, de la Mesa de Comunicación Popular de Salta y
>>>
>>> Jujuy (Argentina) quieren unirse al cnsig. ¿Es eso posible? Solo quiero
>>>
>>> agregar que ambas están dispuestas a unirse al consejo si eso ayudara a
>>>
>>> mantener este espacio.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gracias
>>>
>>> Jesi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 29/04/20 20:08, Nicolás Echániz ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I asked for more time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can we put a date so I can reply to Evelyn?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Nico
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Deadline approaching to complete SIG evaluation items
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:15:14 +0000
>>>
>>> From: Evelyn Namara <namara(a)isoc.org> <namara(a)isoc.org>
>>>
>>> To: nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net> <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net>
>>>
>>> CC: sol(a)zenzeleni.net <sol(a)zenzeleni.net> <sol(a)zenzeleni.net>, manugonzur(a)gmail.com
>>>
>>> <manugonzur(a)gmail.com> <manugonzur(a)gmail.com>, karlavelascor(a)gmail.com
>>>
>>> <karlavelascor(a)gmail.com> <karlavelascor(a)gmail.com>, Christine Saegesser <saegesser(a)isoc.org> <saegesser(a)isoc.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Nico,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is noted. Can you please give me a date past the 30 April deadline
>>>
>>> when you believe you will be able to complete the tasks pending?
>>>
>>> These involve;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Conducting the board elections
>>>
>>> - Activity plan for the SIG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will then apply the extension and check in to see progress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Council mailing list
>>>
>>> Council(a)lists.cnsig.info
>>>
>>> https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Council mailing list
>>> Council(a)lists.cnsig.info
>>> https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Council mailing list
>>> Council(a)lists.cnsig.info
>>> https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://brunovianna.net ─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄
>>> skype: randomico▀─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄▌██─█▌█▌
>>>
>>>
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