Re: [lime-users] Blockchain & ICO for LibreMesh ?!!

Amazing exchanges. fred, I like the concept of a colective ledger that is not based on proof of work... would be very interesting to understand how to use it deeper or even search for a community to do a trial. Ammbr still feels too distant... it is just a feeling. But for community networks having a local currency that they can define it's value i think it would be great to have something like that. The ledger could be managed in the nodes, or as a p2p network in the phones or computers. Regards, On Mon, 2017-10-23 at 17:35 +0200, panayotis antoniadis wrote: > Hi fred, > > Ammbr is a new project jumping on the "Initial Coin Offering (ICO)" > trend, and this is what I meant by "speculation". > > They have produced a white paper which is also somehow speculative > and > marketing oriented leaving out many key challenges and technical > details > for implementing the underlying vision (in short, no prototype is > available). > > However, the concept is obviously interesting and since the details > make > a difference worth thinking carefully about some of them, like the > convertibility of the currency with "fiat money", how to ensure > liquidity, and other important currency design issues that do not > have > to do with computer engineering. > > I will share soon a related paper that we are writing with Leandro > Navarro for Guifi.net on some interesting analogies and possible > synergies between community currencies (which have a long history > before > bitcoin) and community networks. > > The LibrePod is very beautiful! > > And if there is interest in this list about this topic I will be > sharing > some hopefully interesting material ... > > Best, > > Panos. > > On 23.10.2017 17:08, fred wrote: > > Hi > > > > Thanks for Ammbr link, > > do they have a working prototype to show? > > > > In my case, to reduce proof of work extra power consumption, > > I was thinking about using free money project from Duniter > > https://duniter.org/en/ (money is member generated instead of > > blockchain > > mining). > > > > Prototyping it on a "LibrePod" conceived in http://redport.cl/ > > Adding P2P services. Like document sharing & media center + > > social > > network service + device charging service... > > > > I am willing to make the project in collaboration with Dominica > > Governement as a Mesh Network service to rebuild after Hurricane. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Le 21/10/2017 à 01:59, Nicolas Pace a écrit : > > > On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 17:28 +0200, panayotis antoniadis wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Perhaps you have heard of Ammbr? http://ammbr.com/ > > > > It seems highly relevant for this discussion. > > > > > > > > Personally I have many reservations for a scheme that > > > > combines > > > > speculation with sharing :-) > > > > > > It doesn't need to conceive speculation... that is there by > > > design... > > > there could be a currency that doesn't include speculation as > > > part of > > > its model. > > > > > > > But perhaps there are some gains to be made (e.g., public > > > > awareness > > > > and > > > > pressure for better legislation) if big players enter in this > > > > ecosystem. > > > > > > > > I am not sure, and I would be actually interested in your > > > > opinion ... > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Panos. > > > > http://nethood.org/panayotis/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 20.10.2017 16:11, Nicolas Pace wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 09:59 +0200, fred wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I had to conduct an analysis on blockchain technology and > > > > > > realize > > > > > > that > > > > > > it is disruptive and could be a way to conduct ICO > > > > > > (initial > > > > > > coin > > > > > > offering) campaigns. > > > > > > > > > > > > This makes me think about a way to find a solution to > > > > > > provide > > > > > > "bank > > > > > > service" on mesh networks and find fundings and > > > > > > contributors to > > > > > > help > > > > > > LibreMesh technology to spread... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am submitting my thoughts on this mailing list to > > > > > > discuss > > > > > > about. > > > > > > > > > > This would be very interesting... but usually mantaining a > > > > > blockchain > > > > > requires a lot of storage and CPU power... routers might > > > > > not > > > > > be the > > > > > best fit for it. > > > > > > > > > > However, thinking of local digital ledgers for local > > > > > digital > > > > > currencies > > > > > is a very interesting topic. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > lime-users mailing list > > > > > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > > > > > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lime-users mailing list > > > > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > > > > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lime-users mailing list > > > > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > > > > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lime-users mailing list > > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users