Amuza, thanks for pointing out to very interesting information that I
didn't know.
Probably my last time talking about this; because I feel being
repeated somehow (sorry for that)
My motivation to build
matrix.guifi.net (the server I manage) was to
avoid using whatsapp, telegram, signal; and other smartphone
application oriented software. It's very sad that is only for
smartphone, and that forces you to give your mobile phone.
Matrix/riot allows you to use a pseudoanonymous identity. Particularly
this channel is able to be read without login. In
matrix.guifi.net you
can access via tor or what you want. At the moment there is not hidden
service available, but if you point me how to do it, I will be happy
to help.
You can do that by yourself:
https://github.com/guifi-exo/wiki/blob/master/howto/matrix-riot.md
I don't have the stats, but before matrix, what I saw in #libremesh IRC
pure channel was login/logout IRC messages with conversations of 3, 4
lines in a week. These matrix days people talk much more.
I hope you can convert that frustration into effective work for an IRC
compatible software that fits the needs of what people expect for a
chat system today. Going back to pure IRC with no help/guidance on how
to install/tips for the client and server is not an acceptable for me.
If riot/matrix did not exist I will probably looking for something
like this (this was my last check on the topic):
https://www.glowing-bear.org/
With love,
Pedro
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Ilario Gelmetti <iochesonome(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/05/2018 12:05 PM, Amuza wrote:
I also find Matrix scary. I might be wrong, but
such a hype for a
server-client non-free [0] software
[0]
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Talk:Riot-im
<OT>
I'm using riot-desktop client (don't mess between Matrix, the service,
and Riot-desktop or Riot-web or Riot-android, which are some of the
existing clients [0]) and on the linked page they say it's not free
software because it uses electron, but electron looks as free software
to me [1] or can be shipped as free software depending on the
distribution [2].
</OT>
Anyway1, the libremesh-dev chat [3] can also be accessed through IRC,
and if anyone wants to bridge any other service, I think there's no problem.
Anyway2, if federation is not enough and you're looking for
decentralization: there's also a LibreMesh forum on RetroShare, quite
abandoned and difficult to access by new users.
Ciao!
Ilario
[0]
https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html
[1]
https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/LICENSE
[2]
https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1231
[3]
https://libremesh.org/communication.html
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