[OT continue]
I'm also critic about
matrix.org and any related client, like riot.
I think our approach to technology should be critic and accept and use a
new tech when this is approved and discussed by the communities
My concern about matrix are both political, tecnological and social
political, because the main funder is AMDOC, search amodoc-mossad on
google and you can discover something interesting
tecnological, because
1) matrix generate ALOT ot metadata on the central server, even if the
communication is encrypted, the metadata are not and most of the
software analysis to generate network maps use just metadata, more you
have more the map is accurate
2) the Person-in-the-Middle style as Amuza explain is scary
3) is not free
social
4) is trying to create federation with a single app using a non-standard
protocol with a very broken community and recently with some funding
problems. If we need a solution should be decentralized, like mesh
I wonder when we should start to critic new tech, when they come or when
everybody already use it. Usually we just accept and use it mostly of
this, because it's making life easier.
[/OT]
samba
On 02/05/2018 06:51 AM, Ilario Gelmetti wrote:
On 02/05/2018 12:05 PM, Amuza wrote:
I also find Matrix scary. I might be wrong, but
such a hype for a
server-client non-free [0] software
[0]
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Talk:Riot-im
<OT>
I'm using riot-desktop client (don't mess between Matrix, the service,
and Riot-desktop or Riot-web or Riot-android, which are some of the
existing clients [0]) and on the linked page they say it's not free
software because it uses electron, but electron looks as free software
to me [1] or can be shipped as free software depending on the
distribution [2].
</OT>
Anyway1, the libremesh-dev chat [3] can also be accessed through IRC,
and if anyone wants to bridge any other service, I think there's no problem.
Anyway2, if federation is not enough and you're looking for
decentralization: there's also a LibreMesh forum on RetroShare, quite
abandoned and difficult to access by new users.
Ciao!
Ilario
[0]
https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html
[1]
https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/LICENSE
[2]
https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/1231
[3]
https://libremesh.org/communication.html
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