15 May
2021
15 May
'21
1:55 p.m.
Greetings,
I've been looking for a mesh network for my home to ease the trouble with
flakey and various APs from different vendors. One issue I continually run
into when shopping for a mesh setup is that many of the commercial ones
want to replace your router, take over DHCP, etc.
With LibreMesh is it possible to continue using my own router? I have a
Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to and I don't want to stop using it.
I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the docs on how if this scenario was
possible.
Thanks,
Jason
15 May
15 May
5:42 p.m.
Welcome Jason!
I've been looking for a mesh network for my
home to ease the trouble with
flakey and various APs from different vendors. One issue I continually run
into when shopping for a mesh setup is that many of the commercial ones
want to replace your router, take over DHCP, etc.
A LibreMesh deployment will give you a fully functional mesh network.
LibreMesh nodes are not only APs, but routers too. So, in principle, you
don't need anything else than LibreMesh nodes.
With LibreMesh is it possible to continue using my own
router? I have a
Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to and I don't want to stop using it.
I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the docs on how if this scenario was
possible.
As far as I know the Cisco ASA cannot participate in the network as a
mesh node. Maybe you could use it as a perimeter firewall or as an edge
router?
Maybe it is possible to let the Cisco ASA be the DHCP router of the
LibreMesh network, probably someone else here in the list knows better
than me.
But anyway, have you considered the invaluable benefits of getting rid
of evil technologies and jumping into the Free Software world?
Join us!!
Cheers
5:47 p.m.
But anyway, have you considered the invaluable
benefits of getting rid
of evil technologies and jumping into the Free Software world?
Join us!!
Sorry, I forgot to add some reference (maybe you already know what it
is, but just in case you don't):
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
10:57 p.m.
On Sat, May 15, 2021, 1:42 PM amuza <amuza(a)riseup.net> wrote:
Welcome Jason!
Thanks for your repsonse. I don't want my ASA to be part of the mesh
network, just act as my edge router. If I can do that, I'll give libremesh
a try, for sure.
As I mentioned, I like my ASA. I don't want to give it up. I'm no stranger
to FOSS, as I first started using Linux in 1995. :)
I've been looking for a mesh network for
my home to ease the trouble
with
flakey and various APs from different vendors.
One issue I continually
run
into when shopping for a mesh setup is that many
of the commercial ones
want to replace your router, take over DHCP, etc.
A LibreMesh deployment will give you a fully functional mesh network.
LibreMesh nodes are not only APs, but routers too. So, in principle, you
don't need anything else than LibreMesh nodes.
With LibreMesh is it possible to continue using
my own router? I have a
Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to and I don't want to stop using
it.
I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the
docs on how if this scenario
was
possible.
As far as I know the Cisco ASA cannot participate in the network as a
mesh node. Maybe you could use it as a perimeter firewall or as an edge
router?
Maybe it is possible to let the Cisco ASA be the DHCP router of the
LibreMesh network, probably someone else here in the list knows better
than me.
But anyway, have you considered the invaluable benefits of getting rid
of evil technologies and jumping into the Free Software world?
16 May
16 May
9:48 a.m.
Jason Gauthier:
On Sat, May 15, 2021, 1:42 PM amuza
<amuza(a)riseup.net> wrote:
Ok, I had to try.
In 1995 I hardly knew what software was (Free or not:)
You can have your ASA acting as an Edge router of a LibreMesh network.
It just requires an Ethernet cable, one end connected to your ASA and
the other end connected to the WAN port of one of your LibreMesh routers.
But I guess you are not looking for such a basic setup. Maybe you can
send a diagram of what you want.
In the case you want your ASA to be the DHCP server, I don't know how to
do that. I guess everything is possible with Free Software, but I don't
know how much work it would require.
Welcome Jason!
Thanks for your repsonse. I don't want my ASA to be part of the mesh
network, just act as my edge router. If I can do that, I'll give libremesh
a try, for sure.
As I mentioned, I like my ASA. I don't want to give it up. I'm no stranger
to FOSS, as I first started using Linux in 1995. :)
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I've been looking for a mesh network for
my home to ease the trouble
with
flakey and various APs from different vendors.
One issue I continually
run
into when shopping for a mesh setup is that many
of the commercial ones
want to replace your router, take over DHCP, etc.
A LibreMesh deployment will give you a fully functional mesh network.
LibreMesh nodes are not only APs, but routers too. So, in principle, you
don't need anything else than LibreMesh nodes.
With LibreMesh is it possible to continue using
my own router? I have a
Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to and I don't want to stop using
it.
I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the
docs on how if this scenario
was
possible.
As far as I know the Cisco ASA cannot participate in the network as a
mesh node. Maybe you could use it as a perimeter firewall or as an edge
router?
Maybe it is possible to let the Cisco ASA be the DHCP router of the
LibreMesh network, probably someone else here in the list knows better
than me.
But anyway, have you considered the invaluable benefits of getting rid
of evil technologies and jumping into the Free Software world?
11:12 a.m.
On Sun, May 16, 2021, 5:49 AM amuza <amuza(a)riseup.net> wrote:
Jason Gauthier:
Thanks for your repsonse. I don't want my ASA to be part of the mesh
network, just act as my edge router. If I can do that, I'll give libremesh
My ASA is already my DHCP server, so if I can disable it with libremesh it
should work. My desired setup is as simple as you made it sound, except I
want 2-3 libremesh devices. I'll try it out and see. Off to research good,
but affordable, compatible routers. Thanks!
On Sat, May 15, 2021, 1:42 PM amuza
<amuza(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> Welcome Jason!
>> I've been looking for a mesh
network for my home to ease the trouble
> with
>> flakey and various APs from different vendors. One issue I continually
> run
>> into when shopping for a mesh setup is that many of the commercial ones
>> want to replace your router, take over DHCP, etc.
>
> A LibreMesh deployment will give you a fully functional mesh network.
> LibreMesh nodes are not only APs, but routers too. So, in principle, you
> don't need anything else than LibreMesh nodes.
>> With LibreMesh is it possible to
continue using my own router? I have
a
Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to and I
don't want to stop using
it.
I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the
docs on how if this scenario
was
possible.
As far as I know the Cisco ASA cannot participate in the network as a
mesh node. Maybe you could use it as a perimeter firewall or as an edge
router?
Maybe it is possible to let the Cisco ASA be the DHCP router of the
LibreMesh network, probably someone else here in the list knows better
than me.
But anyway, have you considered the invaluable benefits of getting rid
of evil technologies and jumping into the Free Software world?
a try, for sure.
As I mentioned, I like my ASA. I don't want to give it up. I'm no
stranger
to FOSS, as I first started using Linux in 1995.
:)
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Ok, I had to try.
In 1995 I hardly knew what software was (Free or not:)
You can have your ASA acting as an Edge router of a LibreMesh network.
It just requires an Ethernet cable, one end connected to your ASA and
the other end connected to the WAN port of one of your LibreMesh routers.
But I guess you are not looking for such a basic setup. Maybe you can
send a diagram of what you want.
In the case you want your ASA to be the DHCP server, I don't know how to
do that. I guess everything is possible with Free Software, but I don't
know how much work it would require.
6:11 p.m.
Welcome Jason!!
My answer in line:
On 5/16/21 1:12 PM, Jason Gauthier wrote:
Sorry for that, the documentation is a fragmented in various places...
Every contribution is most welcomed!
This can be achieved compiling LibreMesh *without* selecting the
"lime-proto-anygw" package (but I never tested this scenario).
Then, you should connect a LAN port of your router with a LAN port of a
LibreMesh node (very bad idea unless lime-proto-anygw is deselected!!).
I can see only two small problems with this:
* The nodes will have an IPv4 which is likely not in the subnet your
router is advertising (this can be configured in the LibreMesh nodes in
/etc/config/lime-node following the documentation on
/docs/lime-example.txt
https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/blob/master/packages/lime-docs/f…
and the configuration is applied running lime-apply). The clients will
have no problem to reach the internet and to reach the other nodes but
it will be inconvenient to connect to the mesh nodes for maintenance.
* In the lime-proto-anygw there's a parameter that I suppose should be
useful also in your scenario: the LibreMesh DHCP suggests to the clients
to use a small MTU (I suppose that the reason is to decrease
fragmentation inside the mesh). This should be possible to achieve also
decreasing the MTU for the AP interface. If you ignore this, everything
should work anyway, but maaaaybe with a bit worse performances, I
suppose. That MTU setting appeared in LibreMesh in 2014, set by G10h4ck
and I'm not sure that 1350 is still an optimal choice with the current
set of routing protocols:
https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/commit/c028a28b1defdab5163af822e…
Ciao!
Ilario
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iochesonome(a)gmail.com
ilario(a)sindominio.net
>> With
LibreMesh is it possible to continue using my own router?
I have a
>> Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to
and I don't want to stop
using
> it.
>> I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the docs on how if this
scenario
>> was
>>> possible. Thanks for
your repsonse. I don't want my ASA to be part of the mesh
network, just act as my edge router. If I can do that, I'll give
libremesh
a try, for sure.
My ASA is already my DHCP
server, so if I can disable it with libremesh
it should work. My desired setup is as simple as you made it sound,
except I want 2-3 libremesh devices. I'll try it out and see. Off to
research good, but affordable, compatible routers. Thanks!
8:30 p.m.
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:11 PM Ilario Gelmetti <iochesonome(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Welcome Jason!!
My answer in line:
On 5/16/21 1:12 PM, Jason Gauthier wrote:
Sorry for that, the documentation is a fragmented in various places...
Every contribution is most welcomed!
This can be achieved compiling LibreMesh *without* selecting the
"lime-proto-anygw" package (but I never tested this scenario).
Then, you should connect a LAN port of your router with a LAN port of a
LibreMesh node (very bad idea unless lime-proto-anygw is deselected!!).
Oh, okay. great! I was planning on building it myself anyway for the
experience and fun of it. I will keep that in mind.
Otherwise, I would use one of these and replace my router, and leave
"lime-proto-anygw" enabled on the build.
I used to use openwrt some years ago on a linksys. and while it did work, I
struggled with various problems.
If I had some stable hardware and stable openwrt, then I would not be
opposed to swapping my ASA completely. I have a lot of port-forwards but
those are easy to reproduce.
If that is the direction I go, I will need to really think about which
hardware choices to make. One for the 'edge', other's for just
AP/switches.
>>
With LibreMesh is it possible to continue using my own router?
I have a
>> Cisco ASA that I am somewhat partial to
and I don't want to stop
using
> it.
>> I couldn't find anything (obvious) in the docs on how if this
scenario
>> was
>>> possible. > Thanks for your repsonse. I don't
want my ASA to be part of the
mesh
network,
just act as my edge router. If I can do that, I'll give
libremesh
a try, for sure.
My ASA is already my DHCP
server, so if I can disable it with libremesh
it should work. My desired setup is as simple as you made it sound,
except I want 2-3 libremesh devices. I'll try it out and see. Off to
research good, but affordable, compatible routers. Thanks!
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