9 Apr
2019
9 Apr
'19
7:55 p.m.
Hello.
There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant Desperta
(https://www.alacantdesperta.com/ (https://www.alacantdesperta.com/)) totally
self-organized and without money and there is a proposal to make a TV/Radio streaming
during the days of the event.
The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of the city and there is
no internet connection, Then one guy offered his connection that is in a roof of a
building very close and with clear vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a
simple link) or 4 devices (if we distribute the network) using libremesh in order to have
access to internet in different points of the park and also to promote and show the use of
communitary networks using apps like ring to communicate without the need of internet
(p2p).
I would need advice about routers and network devices with antenna to do the link between
the two points in a reliable way.
Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand market (like wallapop or
ebay) because there is no money for buying and we are going to collect between a few guys
some € to spend in them.
Thank you very much :-)
9 Apr
9 Apr
7:57 p.m.
TPlink 3500, 4300, 4310 are great devices for dual band meshing. You
migh find some in the second hand market.
If you can wait 15-20 days, then a good option is the Xiaomi mi 3g, you
can find it for about 30€ in aliexpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-xiaomi-mi-router-3g-1167mbps.html
Less than one of those dual band routers I'd not use for meshing in an
event (will be too poor).
On 9/4/19 21:55, modante(a)disroot.org wrote:
Hello.
There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant Desperta
(https://www.alacantdesperta.com/) totally self-organized and without
money and there is a proposal to make a TV/Radio streaming during the
days of the event.
The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of thel
city and there is no internet connection, Then one guy offered his
connection that is in a roof of a building very close and with clear
vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a simple link) or 4
devices (if we distribute the network) using libremesh in order to have
access to internet in different points of the park and also to promote
and show the use of communitary networks using apps like ring to
communicate without the need of internet (p2p).
I would need advice about routers and network devices with antenna to do
the link between the two points in a reliable way.
Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand market
(like wallapop or ebay) because there is no money for buying and we are
going to collect between a few guys some € to spend in them.
Thank you very much :-)
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New subject: [lime-users] Cheap commercial routers and interface+antenna in spain
El 9 de abril de 2019 14:57:57 GMT-05:00, Pau <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
TPlink 3500, 4300, 4310 are great devices for dual band
meshing. You
migh find some in the second hand market.
If you can wait 15-20 days, then a good option is the Xiaomi mi 3g, you
can find it for about 30€ in aliexpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-xiaomi-mi-router-3g-1167mbps.html
Less than one of those dual band routers I'd not use for meshing in an
event (will be too poor).
Pau, can you explain this last sentence using other words? I don't understand.
On 9/4/19 21:55, modante(a)disroot.org wrote:
Hello.
There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant
Desperta
(https://www.alacantdesperta.com/) totally
self-organized and without
money and there is a proposal to make a TV/Radio streaming during the
days of the event.
The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of
thel
city and there is no internet connection, Then
one guy offered his
connection that is in a roof of a building very close and with clear
vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a simple link) or 4
devices (if we distribute the network) using libremesh in order to
have
access to internet in different points of the
park and also to
promote
and show the use of communitary networks using
apps like ring to
communicate without the need of internet (p2p).
I would need advice about routers and network devices with antenna to
do
the link between the two points in a reliable
way.
Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand
market
(like wallapop or ebay) because there is no money
for buying and we
are
going to collect between a few guys some € to
spend in them.
Thank you very much :-)
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Sure, sorry.
do not make a mesh with a single band, single radio router.
El 10 d’abril de 2019 3:55:06 CEST, Patricio Gibbs via lime-users
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El 9 de abril de 2019 14:57:57 GMT-05:00, Pau <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
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TPlink 3500, 4300, 4310 are great devices for dual
band meshing. You
migh find some in the second hand market.
If you can wait 15-20 days, then a good option is the Xiaomi mi 3g,
you
can find it for about 30€ in aliexpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-xiaomi-mi-router-3g-1167mbps.html
Less than one of those dual band routers I'd not use for meshing in an
event (will be too poor).
Pau, can you explain this last sentence using other words? I don't
understand.
On 9/4/19 21:55, modante(a)disroot.org wrote:
without
Hello.
There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant
Desperta
> (https://www.alacantdesperta.com/) totally self-organized and > money and there is a proposal to make a
TV/Radio streaming during
the
days of
the event.
The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of
thel
> city and there is no internet connection, Then one guy offered his
> connection that is in a roof of a building very close and with clear
> vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a simple link) or devices
(if we distribute the network) using libremesh in order to
have
access to internet in different points of the
park and also to
promote
> and show the use of communitary networks using apps like ring to
> communicate without the need of internet (p2p).
> I would need advice about routers and network devices with antenna do
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way.
Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand
market
(like wallapop or ebay) because there is no money
for buying and we
are
going to collect between a few guys some € to
spend in them.
Thank you very much :-)
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Thanks :-)
The TP-Links are not as easy to find second hand at a good price (less than 20 €) in
Spain.
What about the Xiaomi Mi Router 3C with LibreMesh? Is the cheapest I can find (about 10 €
second hand)
What about the antennas? Are all of them dual? What about real gain of this devices?
The antennas doesn't look like deattachable. Is easy to change one or more antennas
to replace them for a parabola or yagui in order to improve the link?
What about the power source? are 12v and supports POEtizing?
Any other advice?
10 de abril de 2019 1:06, "Pau" <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
TPlink 3500, 4300, 4310 are great devices for dual
band meshing. You
migh find some in the second hand market.
If you can wait 15-20 days, then a good option is the Xiaomi mi 3g, you
can find it for about 30€ in aliexpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-xiaomi-mi-router-3g-1167mbps.html
Less than one of those dual band routers I'd not use for meshing in an
event (will be too poor).
On 9/4/19 21:55, modante(a)disroot.org wrote:
Hello.
There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant Desperta
(https://www.alacantdesperta.com) totally self-organized and without
money and there is a proposal to make a TV/Radio streaming during the
days of the event.
The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of thel
city and there is no internet connection, Then one guy offered his
connection that is in a roof of a building very close and with clear
vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a simple link) or 4
devices (if we distribute the network) using libremesh in order to have
access to internet in different points of the park and also to promote
and show the use of communitary networks using apps like ring to
communicate without the need of internet (p2p).
I would need advice about routers and network devices with antenna to do
the link between the two points in a reliable way.
Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand market
(like wallapop or ebay) because there is no money for buying and we are
going to collect between a few guys some € to spend in them.
Thank you very much :-)
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Do not get a device which has not been previously tested by someone else. Finding hardware
for meshing is hard in general, and only a very specific set of Wifi chips are good for
it.
If you cannot afford a 30-40€ router I would rather use Ethernet cable and standard AP
wifi routers :P
Idea: You might also try to find people, universities, organizations/associations, NGOs...
around to make an investment all together, buy a set of good routers and then use them as
a Quick Mesh deployment set for anyone who needs in the territory.
El 10 d’abril de 2019 10:29:34 CEST, modante(a)disroot.org ha escrit:
Thanks :-)
The TP-Links are not as easy to find second hand at a good price (less
than 20 €) in Spain.
What about the Xiaomi Mi Router 3C with LibreMesh? Is the cheapest I
can find (about 10 € second hand)
What about the antennas? Are all of them dual? What about real gain of
this devices?
The antennas doesn't look like deattachable. Is easy to change one or
more antennas to replace them for a parabola or yagui in order to
improve the link?
What about the power source? are 12v and supports POEtizing?
Any other advice?
10 de abril de 2019 1:06, "Pau" <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
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TPlink 3500, 4300, 4310 are great devices for
dual band meshing. You
migh find some in the second hand market.
If you can wait 15-20 days, then a good option is the Xiaomi mi 3g,
you
can find it for about 30€ in aliexpress.
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-xiaomi-mi-router-3g-1167mbps.html
Less than one of those dual band routers I'd not use for meshing in
an
event (will be too poor).
On 9/4/19 21:55, modante(a)disroot.org wrote:
> Hello.
> There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant
Desperta
> (https://www.alacantdesperta.com) totally
self-organized and without
> money and there is a proposal to make a TV/Radio streaming during
the
> days of the event.
> The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of
thel
> city and there is no internet connection,
Then one guy offered his
> connection that is in a roof of a building very close and with clear
> vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a simple link) or
4
> devices (if we distribute the network) using
libremesh in order to
have
> access to internet in different points of the
park and also to
promote
> and show the use of communitary networks
using apps like ring to
> communicate without the need of internet (p2p).
> I would need advice about routers and network devices with antenna
to do
> the link between the two points in a reliable
way.
> Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand
market
> (like wallapop or ebay) because there is no
money for buying and we
are
going to
collect between a few guys some € to spend in them.
Thank you very much :-)
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Do not get a device which has not been previously
tested by someone else. Finding hardware for meshing is hard in general, and only a very
specific set of Wifi chips are good for it.
If you cannot afford a 30-40€ router I would rather use Ethernet cable and standard AP
wifi routers :P
If you are really going to have TV/Radio streaming, that Ethernet cable
would give you peace of mind. And a good symmetric connection to the
Internet too.
Idea: You might also try to find people, universities,
organizations/associations, NGOs... around to make an investment all together, buy a set
of good routers and then use them as a Quick Mesh deployment set for anyone who needs in
the territory.
El 10 d’abril de 2019 10:29:34 CEST, modante(a)disroot.org ha escrit:
> Thanks :-)
> The TP-Links are not as easy to find second hand at a good price (less
> than 20 €) in Spain.
> What about the Xiaomi Mi Router 3C with LibreMesh? Is the cheapest I
> can find (about 10 € second hand)
> What about the antennas? Are all of them dual? What about real gain of
> this devices?
> The antennas doesn't look like deattachable. Is easy to change one or
> more antennas to replace them for a parabola or yagui in order to
> improve the link?
> What about the power source? are 12v and supports POEtizing?
> Any other advice?
>
>
> 10 de abril de 2019 1:06, "Pau" <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
>
>> TPlink 3500, 4300, 4310 are great devices for dual band meshing. You
>> migh find some in the second hand market.
>>
I guess Pau also meant the 3600 (similar to 3500), but he probably
forgot to mention it. Sometimes you can find them named as TL-WDR3500,
TL-WDR3600, TL-WDR4300 and TL-WDR4310.
>> If you can wait 15-20 days, then a good option
is the Xiaomi mi 3g,
> you
>> can find it for about 30€ in aliexpress.
>>
>>
> https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-xiaomi-mi-router-3g-1167mbps.html
>>
>> Less than one of those dual band routers I'd not use for meshing in
> an
>> event (will be too poor).
>>
>> On 9/4/19 21:55, modante(a)disroot.org wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> There is a festival here in the city of Alicante called Alacant
> Desperta
>>> (https://www.alacantdesperta.com) totally self-organized and without
>>> money and there is a proposal to make a TV/Radio streaming during
> the
>>> days of the event.
>>> The place where it happens is a grat park in one of the castles of
> thel
>>> city and there is no internet connection, Then one guy offered his
>>> connection that is in a roof of a building very close and with clear
>>> vision to the park. The idea is to use between 2 (a simple link) or
> 4
>>> devices (if we distribute the network) using libremesh in order to
> have
>>> access to internet in different points of the park and also to
> promote
>>> and show the use of communitary networks using apps like ring to
>>> communicate without the need of internet (p2p).
Maybe you already know, but Ring/Jami does not work without Internet
unless you manually configure a local bootstrap.
https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/issues/581
>>> I would need advice about routers and
network devices with antenna
> to do
>>> the link between the two points in a reliable way.
>>> Would be great if this devices are easy to get in the second hand
> market
>>> (like wallapop or ebay) because there is no money for buying and we
> are
>>> going to collect between a few guys some € to spend in them.
>>> Thank you very much :-)
>>>
Modante, I might help you with the routers, I live more or less nearby,
send me your Ring ID and I will call you.
12:49 p.m.
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To do a streaming without using internet I think jitsi could work [1],
but it is centralized
As a decentralized solution, check out [2]
Maybe you already know, but Ring/Jami does not work
without Internet
unless you manually configure a local bootstrap.
https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/issues/581
good to know!
[1] https://gitlab.com/guifi-exo/wiki/blob/master/howto/jitsi-meet.md
[2] http://peerstreamer.org/
11 Apr
11 Apr
7:20 a.m.
Sorry but there is no money neither time to contact for support and some organizations
that give you money, ask for advertisment or mention and this is a policy not included in
this event: Is totally self-organized.
Anydoby has tested the Xiamoi Mi Router 3C that is very cheap and easy to find in second
hand market?
And what about the possibility to change the antenna?
Thanks :-)
10 de abril de 2019 14:49, "guifipedro" <guifipedro(a)gmail.com> escribió:
To do a streaming without using internet I think jitsi
could work [1],
but it is centralized
As a decentralized solution, check out [2]
Maybe you already know, but Ring/Jami does not
work without Internet
unless you manually configure a local bootstrap.
https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/issues/581
good to know!
[1] https://gitlab.com/guifi-exo/wiki/blob/master/howto/jitsi-meet.md
[2] http://peerstreamer.org
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the 3c is not even supported by openwrt -
https://openwrt.org/toh/start?dataflt%5BBrand*%7E%5D=xiaomi
libremesh is built for a few of the openwrt supported routers. so it seems
like it wouldn't be a good choice at all.
if you go for the ethernet + routers solution, then dualband won't be as
important. we have been using single bands tp-link cpe210/510 with good
results. a pair of cpe510 would be great for the link between the apartment
and the event (assuming it is too far for ethernet cables)
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:20 AM <modante(a)disroot.org> wrote:
Sorry but there is no money neither time to contact
for support and some
organizations that give you money, ask for advertisment or mention and this
is a policy not included in this event: Is totally self-organized.
Anydoby has tested the Xiamoi Mi Router 3C that is very cheap and easy to
find in second hand market?
And what about the possibility to change the antenna?
Thanks :-)
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To do a streaming without using internet I think
jitsi could work [1],
but it is centralized
As a decentralized solution, check out [2]
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https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/ring-project/issues/581
good to know!
[1] https://gitlab.com/guifi-exo/wiki/blob/master/howto/jitsi-meet.md
[2] http://peerstreamer.org
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I have bought some used Cisco Meraki MR24 (x4) devices which i have built
from source own customized LibreMesh firmware. (BMX7, BatMan-Adv,
MAC-Telnet-Server, ieee802r, etc)
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