Dear CNSIGers,
In preparation for the Kick off Meeting (KoM) we would like to invite
everyone who has expressed their intention to coordinate a Working Group
to share through this list their "statement of intent", so we can move
forward as proposed by our Bylaws:
"The WG coordinator position will be examined and approved by the
Executive Council. To that end, candidates to coordinator positions will
submit a written statement of intention 30 days before the meeting.
Members of each working group shall have experience in the matter and
commitment to actively pursue the Working Group's role."
We won't be able to comply with the "30 days before the meeting"
requirement, but if we can reach consensus on the coordination roles I
guess we are OK. Otherwise, we can take more time.
The WG participants and coordinators were self identified in the
following pad:
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_WGs
We have already created e-mail lists for the Working Groups and members
have been pre-subscribed. These lists can already be used if you wish,
even prior to deciding on coordination roles, to begin communicating and
defining the focus of WG activities.
The e-mail addresses are:
tech-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info
regulation-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info
training-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info
impact-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info
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Also, as part of the preparation for the KoM and looking forward to make
it valuable and efficient, we want to invite everyone to share in
advance some information to complement what you will be sharing verbally
during the meeting.
We know that there is a lot to be shared about the organizations and the
people in the CNSIG, and at the same time there are many topics that
need to be covered in a limited amount of time.
By this proposal we aim to enrich this very relevant space -where we get
to know more about each other- while at the same time saving precious
time during the meeting.
So, the proposal is:
Add in the KoM pad: https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_Meeting01
... links to the information (text, photo, video, etc) you want to share
about both you and your organization. Use the =About Us= section in the
pad for this.
Please also review the information shared by others before the KoM if
you can make the time to do so. Having a better mental image of who we
all are during the meeting helps a lot.
All the best,
Nico, Sol, Rodrigo
On 01/18/2018 08:54 PM, Rodrigo Monelos wrote:
> Mi sensación luego de nuestra charla de ayer tomo una forma parecida a
> lo que planteás de "bajar un cambio", y la veo alineada con lo que los
> bylaws nos están diciendo.
> Conociendo ahora esa definición creo que tendríamos simplemente que
> seguirla. Lo que entiendo es que no sería ni lo que pensamos ayer ni la
> nueva propuesta.
> Con respecto a la idea de "ganar tiempo" e ir conversando, hice un
> ejercicio de dimensionamiento rápido y creo que la agenda que estamos
> planteando excede por mucho las dos horas.
> Mi opinión es que este tema lo ejecutemos según los bylaws y que
> enfoquemos el diseño de la reunión en lograr esos acuerdos mínimos que
> nos ayuden a avanzar en esta etapa tan particular de "darle forma" al
> espacio. Para graficarlo diría que son cosas que van por el lado de
> definir los próximos pasos y cómo darlos.
>
>
> El 18 ene. 2018 3:55 p. m., "Nicolás Echániz"
> <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net <mailto:nicoechaniz@altermundi.net>> escribió:
>
> Hice algunas pequeñas modificaciones en el texto, creo que nada muy
> relevante. Agregué algún link y las direcciones de las listas de
> correo también.
>
> De cualquier manera, tengo un conflicto más de fondo con esto que
> estamos proponiendo.
>
> En los dos grupos donde hay más de un coordinador propuesto, creo
> que va a ser problemático tener una co-coordinación... El de
> regulation, donde están propuestos Erick y Thiago, sus perfiles son
> completamente diferentes y sus estrategias también. En el técnico,
> hay 3 nicos (los 2 de AlterMundi) y el de Sarantaporo. El de
> Sarantaporo trabaja con tecnologías privativas, no es un "militante"
> del software/hardware libre y creo que en general tiene una mirada
> muy diferente que me hace difícil imaginar una co-coordinación.
>
> Creo que quizás podemos bajar un cambio la apuesta inicial para la
> Kick-off meeting y en vez de pedir ahora que los WG preparen todo lo
> que estamos pidiendo, pidamos solamente que las personas que se han
> propuesto para coordinar un WG envíen su "statement of intention",
> según lo que pedimos en los Bylaws:
>
> "The WG coordinator position will be examined and approved by the
> Executive Council. To that end, candidates to coordinator positions
> will submit a written statement of intention 30 days before the meeting.
> Members of each working group shall have experience in the matter
> and commitment to actively pursue the Working Group's role."
>
> Durante el KoM entonces podemos dar un momento para hacerles
> preguntas a los "candidatos" en función de lo que enviaron como
> propuesta/presentación. Dejaríamos para una siguiente reunión el
> momento en que los WGs presenten al Council sus objetivos/roadmaps,
> que elaborarían en conjunto, ya teniendo sus coordinadores definnidos.
>
> Cómo lo ven?
>
> Abrazos
>
>
> ===
> Igual copio acá abajo la versión con mis cambios del texto que
> empezó Sol por si decidimos no prestar atención a mi propuesta y
> seguir como veníamos :)
> ===
>
>
> Dear CNSIGers,
>
> In preparation for the Kick off Meeting (KoM) we would like to
> invite the Working Groups (WG) to begin communicating and defining
> the focus of their activities. As a reminder, the WG participants
> and coordinators were self identified in the following pad
> https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_WGs
> <https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_WGs>
>
> At the KoM we will give the Coordinator/s of each group the chance
> to present the WG to the rest of the Council. We would appreciate if
> you could focus the brief presentation by answering the follow 3 points.
>
> 1. Based on the general objectives of the CNSIG and for each WG,
> discussed in the Bylaws (https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_Bylaws2
> <https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_Bylaws2> ) and in the original
> application document (https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG
> <https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG> ), what are the main proposed
> objetives for the WG for 2018?, what would be the kind of
> deliverables expected and the value of these to the general WG
> objective?
>
> 2. What criteria/ metric will be used to evaluate if we are moving
> towards the objectives and how close we are?
> 3. What are some of the tasks that you envision undertaking?
>
> For WG which 2 people have indicated they are willing to coordinate,
> please also determine if you will co-coordinate, or chose a single
> coordinator.
>
> To aid the communication, we have created a WG mailing address for
> each WG. You are welcome to use these to communicate, and use other
> means you feel most confortable with.
>
> Initial members (as detailed in the WGs pad) have been pre-subscribed.
>
> E-mail address for each list are:
>
> tech-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info <mailto:tech-wg@lists.cnsig.info>
> regulation-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info <mailto:regulation-wg@lists.cnsig.info>
> training-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info <mailto:training-wg@lists.cnsig.info>
> impact-wg(a)lists.cnsig.info <mailto:impact-wg@lists.cnsig.info>
>
>
> Lastly, we understand that the WG's are just starting and that the
> availability of each WG to prepare something for the KoM will
> differ. The intention of this invitation is to create a space to
> start sharing. WG's presentations are not expected to be formal.
>
>
> All the best,
> Nico, Sol, Rodrigo
>
>
>
Dear CNSIG members,
Please find below information and a date poll for the CNSIG Kick off
Meeting.
The purpose of a Kick off is really to get everyone on the same page and
formally start work in the SIG. The main points to be covered are as
follows:
1. To briefly introduce ourselves.
2. To exchange our ideas of what the purpose of the CNSIG is, and how we
plan to go about it. It will be a good idea to set out some core
deliverables - or roadmap - of what we want to accomplish in the following
year. The bylaws and the discussion on the etherpad
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG offer the basic framework of the group´s
purpose and basic parametres, and should be our guide in the activies we
plan.
3. To go a bit deeper into what each Working Group will focus on and how
they interact with each other.
4. Set up the modus operandi of the SIG in general.
5. To kick start the activity of the SIG.
*DATE*: Please indicate the date you prefer in the poll
https://framadate.org/DWMLqQfeGJW3fjNQ *the poll closes on the 11th Jan*
*TIME*: I propose UTC 4pm - 6pm (or mayb 7pm if we require extra time).
This seems like the only time all our time zones would be decent.
*PLATFORM:* Mumble has been suggested as a good platform to use.
https://www.mumble.com/
*AGENDA*: If you have any specific agenda items, beyond the points
mentioned above, please send them to this group before the meeting.
Any other considerations welcome. Looking forward.
Cheers,
--
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Hi all,
Roger from guifi.net made contact after the official ISOC announcement.
He asks what's the procedure to join the CNSIG.
We haven't yet established this clearly but in my opinion guifi.net
needs no introduction and I would just invite them to join directly.
If anyone considers it's better to wait untill we have an established
procedure, please say so. Otherwise, I'll just tell Roger to join the
mailing list and add him in the ISOC admin system as a member of the SIG.
Cheers!
NicoEchániz
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Joining ISOC CNSIG
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:02:03 +0100
From: Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig(a)guifi.net>
Organization: Fundació Privada per a la Xarxa Oberta, Lliure i Neutral
guifi.net
To: NicoEchániz <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net>, Leandro Navarro
<leandro(a)ac.upc.edu>
Hola Nico,
Cómo hay que proceder para unirse al nuevo SIG de CNs de ISOC? [1].
Aun no está listado:
https://www.internetsociety.org/sigs
gracias
[1]
https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/chapter-delegates/2018-January/019698.
html
Hi everyone,
Now that we have one operational domain name, I have set up this e-mail
list for the CNSIG Council. The @altermundi list will be disabled soon.
Let's use this Council list from now on for any discussion/decision making.
Our initial Council members are:
Coolab - Rodrigo Troian (Brasil)
Coolab - Thiago Novaes (Brasil)
Coolab - Bruno Vianna (Brazil)
Ninux - Claudio Pisa (Italy)
Ninux - Gioacchino Mazzuco (Italy)
Ninux - Ilario Gelmetti (Italy)
Atalaya Sur - Iván Camacho (Argentina)
Atalaya Sur - Manuela González Ursi (Argentina)
Atalaya Sur - Damian Cejas (Argentina)
AlterMundi - NicoEchániz (Argentina)
AlterMundi - Jésica Giudice (Argentina)
AlterMundi - NicoPace (Argentina)
Rhizomatica - Peter Bloom (México)
Rhizomatica - Erick Huerta (Mexico)
Sarantaporo - Vasilis Chryssos (Greece)
Sarantaporo - George Klisiaris (Greece)
GramMarg - Sarbani Banerjee (India)
GramMarg - Jaspreet Singh (India)
Fantsuam Foundation - John Dada (Nigeria)
TIC AC - Karla Velasco (México)
TIC AC - Rodrigo Huerta (México)
Zenzeleni - Soledad Lucadetena (South Africa)
So, we have 10 organizations, represented by 22 people. According to our
Bylaws, each organization has a vote and up to three voices in this Council.
Sol will soon be sending a call for our initial Council meeting through
this list.
ISOC will officially announce the CNSIG creation some time during next week.
Cheers!
NicoEchániz
Hi Nicholas,
Your e-mail address seems to have slipped through the many pad + list
iterations you should be subscribed to the list now.
If anyone else knows of somebody missing from the list, please let us
know. There are many organizations with less than three representatives.
Cheers,
NicoEchániz
On 01/03/2018 09:07 PM, Nicholas Kourtzis wrote:
> Dear Nico et al,
>
> I was surprised to see that, even though Sarantaporo.gr has not
> exhausted its seats in the group and I was among the first to express
> interest in participating and to contribute edits to the proposed texts,
> I did not see my name included in the final list. At the same time,
> neither I nor any other of my fellow Sarantaporo.gr members ever
> received any invitation to participate in the processes that lead to the
> selection of the members of this group.
>
> I believe that the above omission was due to oversight, caused by the
> tight schedule on which the group formation is taking place and I ask,
> once again, that I am considered for the third Sarantaporo.gr
> representation seat, as also per George Kleisiaris' request.
>
> Feliz año nuevo,
> Nicholas Kourtzis
>
> 2018-01-03 22:56 GMT+02:00 George Klissiaris <gklis(a)sarantaporo.gr
> <mailto:gklis@sarantaporo.gr>>:
>
> Could you please also include Nikolaos Kourzis
> (kourtzis(a)sarantaporo.gr <mailto:kourtzis@sarantaporo.gr>) from our
> community in the following list? Thank you.
>
> *George Klissiaris*
> Board Member & Administrator
>
> *Sarantaporo.gr Non Profit Organization*
> 28 Karaiskaki Str., 10554, Athens, Greece
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=28+Karaiskaki+Str.,+10554,+Athens,+Greece&entry=…>
> Tel: +30 211 8002730 <tel:+30%2021%201800%202730>, Mob: +30 6932 809662
> Email: gklis(a)sarantaporo.gr <mailto:gklis@sarantaporo.gr>, Web:
> www.sarantaporo.gr <http://www.sarantaporo.gr>
>
> 2018-01-03 19:19 GMT+02:00 Nicolás Echániz
> <nicoechaniz(a)altermundi.net <mailto:nicoechaniz@altermundi.net>>:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that we have one operational domain name, I have set up this
> e-mail
> list for the CNSIG Council. The @altermundi list will be
> disabled soon.
>
> Let's use this Council list from now on for any
> discussion/decision making.
>
> Our initial Council members are:
>
> Coolab - Rodrigo Troian (Brasil)
> Coolab - Thiago Novaes (Brasil)
> Coolab - Bruno Vianna (Brazil)
>
> Ninux - Claudio Pisa (Italy)
> Ninux - Gioacchino Mazzuco (Italy)
> Ninux - Ilario Gelmetti (Italy)
>
> Atalaya Sur - Iván Camacho (Argentina)
> Atalaya Sur - Manuela González Ursi (Argentina)
> Atalaya Sur - Damian Cejas (Argentina)
>
> AlterMundi - NicoEchániz (Argentina)
> AlterMundi - Jésica Giudice (Argentina)
> AlterMundi - NicoPace (Argentina)
>
> Rhizomatica - Peter Bloom (México)
> Rhizomatica - Erick Huerta (Mexico)
>
> Sarantaporo - Vasilis Chryssos (Greece)
> Sarantaporo - George Klisiaris (Greece)
>
> GramMarg - Sarbani Banerjee (India)
> GramMarg - Jaspreet Singh (India)
>
> Fantsuam Foundation - John Dada (Nigeria)
>
> TIC AC - Karla Velasco (México)
> TIC AC - Rodrigo Huerta (México)
>
> Zenzeleni - Soledad Lucadetena (South Africa)
>
>
> So, we have 10 organizations, represented by 22 people.
> According to our
> Bylaws, each organization has a vote and up to three voices in
> this Council.
>
> Sol will soon be sending a call for our initial Council meeting
> through
> this list.
>
> ISOC will officially announce the CNSIG creation some time
> during next week.
>
> Cheers!
> NicoEchániz
>
>
>
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