Dear all,
I agree with the points made by Sol and I apologize for insisting on
this topic.
From my side this is a source of stress, not being part of previous
efforts and not being clear to me which groups or individuals were
somehow "responsible" for blocking the process.
Very practically, I feel for example like asking people from Freifunk to
join or even to ask why they are not already requested themselves to do
so, but I am afraid not to "enter" in an old debate that I am not aware of.
In any case, I would feel more comfortable if there are soon no obvious
CNs missing from the list of organizations or at least if I understand
why this is so :-)
But I would also accept to stop worrying and "start working first"
having these issues cleared out for me (and perhaps for others) along
the way.
Best,
Panos.
On 28.02.2018 23:07, Sol Luca de Tena wrote:
Hi Panos and all,
Here are my two cents worth in my personal capacity. I agree on
inclusion in general, so I do believe some work in reaching out is
necessary and valuable. Furthermore,there are some CNs that have
already reached out to us, like Gufinet, that seem like very natural
participants and they should be integrated asap.
On the other hand, I think it will be valuable to reach out to CNs
that are perhaps not represented in other groups and whose input has
not been considered before. My point here I guess is that we don't
only end up reaching to the organisations we all know, but research
further to incorporate others more "out of the loop" - maybe aiming at
some regional diversity but mainly to push ourselves to go further
than the norm.
This leads me to another point, which is that we should avoid
duplicating efforts made by others. In order to not duplicate we need
to understand what we are doing and what has been/ is being done by
others. For me one of the first tasks we need to do (perhaps within
the WGs) is to understand what prior work/efforts are valuable to our
work. This may lead in some cases to rather partner/ have regular
meetings with other groups or organisations than to integrate everyone
into this SIG.
In summary, I would make a lean procedure to accept CNs that are
"obvious" candidates which have requested to be part of the CNSIG.
Maybe a council member formally nominates them and the council has a
short period to approve or object. For further reaching out, I would
first aim to create a comprehensive list of CNs and groups that are
relevant to the CNSIG (maybe within the WGs) to get a clear idea of
what there is/ who is out there and what our relationship would be
(member of the CNSIG? partner? etc).
What do you think?
Sol
2018-02-22 23:35 GMT+02:00 panayotis antoniadis <panayotis(a)nethood.org
<mailto:panayotis@nethood.org>>:
Dear all,
I was somehow waiting something to happen regarding this issue and
Nico
just reminded me that there were no answers to the e-mail :-)
So, I am answering!
From my side, the list started by Nico is already good enough to start
contacting and here is a pad to "add" to the list (together with a
very
draft invitation text):
https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_reach-out
<https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_reach-out>
Personally, I know people from the three first networks, and I
could do
the contact. But I don't really want to take the lead on this and
would
do it only if asked.
Best,
Panos.
On 29.01.2018 20:07, Nicolás Echániz wrote:
Hi all,
During the meeting one of the subjects that was raised but we had no
time to address is the reach-out process and candidates selection.
I propose that we create in this thread a list of the community
networks
we would like to invite.
Considering the Special Interest Group is meant to be global, I
believe
it is important to try to keep some regional
balance in the
group over time.
There were two candidates previously mentioned. Let's grow this list
with the communities we would like to reach out to. I'd suggest
that we
also add some contact names for each
organization.
So, starting the list:
-
guifi.net <http://guifi.net> (Roger Baig Viñas, Ramón Roca, ...)
- Freifunk (Elektra Wagenrad, Monic Meisel, André Gaul...)
- Wlan-slovenia (Luka Mustafa/Musti, ...)
- Digital Empowerment Foundation (Ritu Srivastava, Osama Manzar,
...)
- PeoplesOpen/SudoMesh (JennyRyan, ...)
- ...
Cheers!
NicoEchániz
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