1 Dec
2018
1 Dec
'18
7:40 p.m.
After about a year of hoping, waiting, testing, and so on, and thanks to Ilario and
Nicopace’s help, I can finally confirm that the Xiaomi Router 3G [MI R3G] is a dream
router.
I am still very excited about the LibreRouter, and that’s a project I had been considering
starting myself in the past before I ran into it, but this router is 30€ and - after 4
years of work in this field - has finally rebooted my hope into mesh networks, sustaining
a 135mbps mesh over 5GHz AC WiFi, with 1ms latencies between nodes under ideal
conditions.
I’ve learned that several other people - with actual technical expertise [as opposed to
mine] - are looking into this router also because of its mt7621 chip, which I hear seems
to work much better than ath10k. It can also apparently sustain a gigabit hardware NAT [I
seem to have understood from rumors].
I’ve run several iperfs and I keep getting results over 100mbps up and down and sometimes
even peaking at 140mbps. The latency between nodes is a steady 1ms.
root@OPNT-d04123:~# ping6 fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4
PING fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4(fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.69 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.04 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.04 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.11 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.11 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.875 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.992 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1.43 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=1.18 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=1.07 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.752 ms
^C
--- fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4 ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 11 received, 0% packet loss, time 10098ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.752/1.120/1.698/0.248 ms
localhost:~ at$ ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=120 time=3.857 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=120 time=3.906 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=120 time=10.015 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=120 time=3.843 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 20.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 3.843/5.405/10.015/2.662 ms
localhost:~ at$ speedtest
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from Fastweb (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by Fastweb SpA (Milan) [0.17 km]: 6.045 ms
Testing download
speed................................................................................
Download: 111.09 Mbit/s
Testing upload
speed................................................................................................
Upload: 135.79 Mbit/s
localhost:~ at$ traceroute 8.8.8.8
traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.42.65.35 (10.42.65.35) 0.855 ms 0.415 ms 0.306 ms
2 10.42.65.163 (10.42.65.163) 1.361 ms 1.332 ms 0.945 ms
3 192.168.11.1 (192.168.11.1) 1.307 ms 1.431 ms 1.148 ms
I’m trying it out on 18.06 on develop branch. If anyone wants to install the profile check
out the network-profile “openNET.io/Mi-R3G”.
This is how I’m cooking it as per the openNET.io-cooker script [which can also be found
inside our net-profile]
./cooker --flavor=lime_default --remote \
--community=openNET.io/Mi-R3G -c ramips/mt7621 --profile=mir3g
I’ve tried disabling the 5GHz interface to see how it performs on 2.4 but even after
reboot it doesn’t seem to be able to route to the other node. I’ll post back with more
details over time if anyone’s interested.
Nz
2 Dec
2 Dec
5:14 p.m.
New subject: [lime-users] Xiaomi Router 3G [MI R3G] performing beyond all expectations
Are you using that router
https://www.amazon.fr/Original-Xiaomi-routeur-802-11-Gigabit/dp/B077P8FNVY
Le 01/12/2018 à 20:40, norðurljósahviða via lime-users a écrit :
After about a year of hoping, waiting, testing, and so
on, and thanks
to Ilario and Nicopace’s help, I can finally confirm that the Xiaomi
Router 3G [MI R3G] is a dream router.
I am still very excited about the LibreRouter, and that’s a project I
had been considering starting myself in the past before I ran into it,
but this router is 30€ and - after 4 years of work in this field - has
finally rebooted my hope into mesh networks, sustaining a 135mbps mesh
over 5GHz AC WiFi, with 1ms latencies between nodes under ideal
conditions.
I’ve learned that several other people - with actual technical
expertise [as opposed to mine] - are looking into this router also
because of its mt7621 chip, which I hear seems to work much better
than ath10k. It can also apparently sustain a gigabit hardware NAT [I
seem to have understood from rumors].
I’ve run several iperfs and I keep getting results over 100mbps up and
down and sometimes even peaking at 140mbps. The latency between nodes
is a steady 1ms.
root@OPNT-d04123:~# ping6 fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4
PING
fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4(fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4) 56
data bytes
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64
time=1.69 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64
time=1.04 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64
time=1.04 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64
time=1.11 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64
time=1.11 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64
time=0.875 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64
time=0.992 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64
time=1.43 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64
time=1.18 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64
time=1.07 ms
64 bytes from fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64
time=0.752 ms
^C
--- fd66:66:66:7:4231:3cff:fed0:41a4 ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 11 received, 0% packet loss, time 10098ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.752/1.120/1.698/0.248 ms
localhost:~ at$ ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=120 time=3.857 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=120 time=3.906 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=120 time=10.015 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=120 time=3.843 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 20.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 3.843/5.405/10.015/2.662 ms
localhost:~ at$ speedtest
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Testing from Fastweb (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Selecting best server based on ping...
Hosted by Fastweb SpA (Milan) [0.17 km]: 6.045 ms
Testing download
speed................................................................................
Download: 111.09 Mbit/s
Testing upload
speed................................................................................................
Upload: 135.79 Mbit/s
localhost:~ at$ traceroute 8.8.8.8
traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.42.65.35 (10.42.65.35) 0.855 ms 0.415 ms 0.306 ms
2 10.42.65.163 (10.42.65.163) 1.361 ms 1.332 ms 0.945 ms
3 192.168.11.1 (192.168.11.1) 1.307 ms 1.431 ms 1.148 ms
I’m trying it out on 18.06 on develop branch. If anyone wants to
install the profile check out the network-profile “openNET.io/Mi-R3G”.
This is how I’m cooking it as per the openNET.io-cooker script [which
can also be found inside our net-profile]
./cooker --flavor=lime_default --remote \
--community=openNET.io/Mi-R3G -c ramips/mt7621 --profile=mir3g
I’ve tried disabling the 5GHz interface to see how it performs on 2.4
but even after reboot it doesn’t seem to be able to route to the other
node. I’ll post back with more details over time if anyone’s interested.
Nz
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3 Dec
3 Dec
6:35 p.m.
I am still very excited about the LibreRouter, and
that’s a project I had
been considering starting myself in the past before I ran into it, but this
router is 30€ and - after 4 years of work in this field - has finally
rebooted my hope into mesh networks, sustaining a 135mbps mesh over 5GHz AC
WiFi, with 1ms latencies between nodes under ideal conditions.
Just keep in mind that the Librerouter is not just about specs and price!
For a long time we had the wdr3500/3600 which worked beautifully. But then
on one hand the FCC started to block firmware installations and on the
other, tp-link simply phased out them. So it is really more about creating
some technological sovereignty.
Just my 2 cents
Best,
Bruno
7:08 p.m.
New subject: [lime-users] Xiaomi Router 3G [MI R3G] performing beyond all expectations
Absolutely, I’m working on a community fiber optic project called LibreFibre where
everything is *required* to be open source and open hardware, among a bunch of other cool
freedom stuff, so that the internet is literally owned by the community, so I can
absolutely relate to a project so cool like the LibreRouter.
However, we do also need to keep an eye on what we can do today, what we can do
affordably, and what we can achieve with other stuff out there to always have a well
balanced view on what’s already out there, and the benefits we’re getting out of tackling
every challenge.
Spending 30€ on a device that meshes in AC with no extra ath10k BS or 3-minute ping tests
to restart the wifi antennas is - in my opinion - the new golden standard of what’s out
there right now, and what i expect to compare the LiRo to when it comes out.
Can’t wait for it to be in my hands BTW.
P.S.: can someone accept my subscription request for nz(a)os.vu, my new email address
please? Thank you very much in advance ;]
Nz
On 3 Dec 2018, 19:36 +0100, bruno vianna <bruno(a)pobox.com>om>, wrote:
>
> >
> > I am still very excited about the LibreRouter, and that’s a project I had been
considering starting myself in the past before I ran into it, but this router is 30€ and -
after 4 years of work in this field - has finally rebooted my hope into mesh networks,
sustaining a 135mbps mesh over 5GHz AC WiFi, with 1ms latencies between nodes under ideal
conditions.
> >
> >
>
> Just keep in mind that the Librerouter is not just about specs and price! For a long
time we had the wdr3500/3600 which worked beautifully. But then on one hand the FCC
started to block firmware installations and on the other, tp-link simply phased out them.
So it is really more about creating some technological sovereignty.
>
> Just my 2 cents
> Best,
> Bruno
>
>
7:17 p.m.
New subject: [lime-users] Xiaomi Router 3G [MI R3G] performing beyond all expectations
On 3/12/18 20:08, norðurljósahviða via lime-users wrote:
Spending 30€ on a device that meshes in AC with no extra ath10k BS or
3-minute ping tests to restart the wifi antennas is - in my opinion -
the new golden standard of what’s out there right now, and what i expect
to compare the LiRo to when it comes out.
I think it's a very interesting router. Where are you buying it for 30€?
--
./p4u
7:34 p.m.
Sounds interesting, also because there are situations where a LibreRouter is excess, and a
small router is sufficient.... So until LibreRouterMini, we still need off the shelf
devices from common vendors.
Here in Ecuador I see a Xiaomi Router 3 and 3c for sale, but no 3g:
https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ec/xiaomi-router . Process range from $45-$90 USD
(Ecuador uses US dollars).
El 3 de diciembre de 2018 14:17:15 GMT-05:00, Pau <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
On 3/12/18 20:08, norðurljósahviða via lime-users
wrote:
Spending 30€ on a device that meshes in AC with no extra ath10k BS or
3-minute ping tests to restart the wifi antennas is - in my opinion -
the new golden standard of what’s out there right now, and what i
expect
to compare the LiRo to when it comes out.
I think it's a very interesting router. Where are you buying it for
30€?
--
./p4u 
7:51 p.m.
norðurljósahviða, this is really great news!
Do you have this in production or just on the test bench?
Are the antennas removable and if so, are the rp-sma connectors?
On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:36 PM Patricio Gibbs via lime-users
<lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org> wrote:
Sounds interesting, also because there are situations where a LibreRouter is excess, and
a small router is sufficient.... So until LibreRouterMini, we still need off the shelf
devices from common vendors.
Here in Ecuador I see a Xiaomi Router 3 and 3c for sale, but no 3g:
https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ec/xiaomi-router . Process range from $45-$90 USD
(Ecuador uses US dollars).
El 3 de diciembre de 2018 14:17:15 GMT-05:00, Pau <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
On 3/12/18 20:08, norðurljósahviða via lime-users wrote:
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Spending 30€ on a device that meshes in AC with no extra ath10k BS or
3-minute ping tests to restart the wifi antennas is - in my opinion -
the new golden standard of what’s out there right now, and what i expect
to compare the LiRo to when it comes out.
I think it's a very interesting router. Where are you buying it for 30€? 
8:28 p.m.
New subject: [lime-users] Xiaomi Router 3G [MI R3G] performing beyond all expectations
Il 03/12/18 20:51, dan ha scritto:
norðurljósahviða, this is really great news!
Do you have this in production or just on the test bench?
Are the antennas removable and if so, are the rp-sma connectors?
On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:36 PM Patricio Gibbs via lime-users
<lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org> wrote:
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/Originale-Xiao-mi-senza-Fili-Wifi-Router-3g-…
Sounds interesting, also because there are
situations where a LibreRouter is excess, and a small router is sufficient.... So until
LibreRouterMini, we still need off the shelf devices from common vendors.
Here in Ecuador I see a Xiaomi Router 3 and 3c for sale, but no 3g:
https://listado.mercadolibre.com.ec/xiaomi-router . Process range from $45-$90 USD
(Ecuador uses US dollars).
El 3 de diciembre de 2018 14:17:15 GMT-05:00, Pau <pau(a)dabax.net> escribió:
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Spending 30€ on a device that meshes in AC with no extra ath10k BS or
3-minute ping tests to restart the wifi antennas is - in my opinion -
the new golden standard of what’s out there right now, and what i expect
to compare the LiRo to when it comes out.
I think it's a very interesting router. Where are you buying it for 30€?
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