Re: [CNSIG-Council] reaching out to other CNs

Dear all, I agree with the points made by Sol and I apologize for insisting on this topic. From my side this is a source of stress, not being part of previous efforts and not being clear to me which groups or individuals were somehow "responsible" for blocking the process. Very practically, I feel for example like asking people from Freifunk

join or even to ask why they are not already requested themselves to do so, but I am afraid not to "enter" in an old debate that I am not

In any case, I would feel more comfortable if there are soon no obvious CNs missing from the list of organizations or at least if I understand why this is so :-) But I would also accept to stop worrying and "start working first" having these issues cleared out for me (and perhaps for others) along the way. Best, Panos. On 28.02.2018 23:07, Sol Luca de Tena wrote: > Hi Panos and all, > > Here are my two cents worth in my personal capacity. I agree on > inclusion in general, so I do believe some work in reaching out is > necessary and valuable. Furthermore,there are some CNs that have > already reached out to us, like Gufinet, that seem like very natural > participants and they should be integrated asap. > > On the other hand, I think it will be valuable to reach out to CNs > that are perhaps not represented in other groups and whose input has > not been considered before. My point here I guess is that we don't > only end up reaching to the organisations we all know, but research > further to incorporate others more "out of the loop" - maybe aiming at > some regional diversity but mainly to push ourselves to go further > than the norm. > > This leads me to another point, which is that we should avoid > duplicating efforts made by others. In order to not duplicate we need > to understand what we are doing and what has been/ is being done by > others. For me one of the first tasks we need to do (perhaps within > the WGs) is to understand what prior work/efforts are valuable to our > work. This may lead in some cases to rather partner/ have regular > meetings with other groups or organisations than to integrate everyone > into this SIG. > > In summary, I would make a lean procedure to accept CNs that are > "obvious" candidates which have requested to be part of the CNSIG. > Maybe a council member formally nominates them and the council has a > short period to approve or object. For further reaching out, I would > first aim to create a comprehensive list of CNs and groups that are > relevant to the CNSIG (maybe within the WGs) to get a clear idea of > what there is/ who is out there and what our relationship would be > (member of the CNSIG? partner? etc). > > What do you think? > Sol > > 2018-02-22 23:35 GMT+02:00 panayotis antoniadis <

> <mailto:panayotis@nethood.org>>: > > > Dear all, > > I was somehow waiting something to happen regarding this issue and > Nico > just reminded me that there were no answers to the e-mail :-) > > So, I am answering! > > From my side, the list started by Nico is already good enough to

> contacting and here is a pad to "add" to the list (together with a > very > draft invitation text): > > https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_reach-out > <https://pad.codigosur.org/CNSIG_reach-out> > > Personally, I know people from the three first networks, and I > could do > the contact. But I don't really want to take the lead on this and > would > do it only if asked. > > > Best, > > Panos. > > > > On 29.01.2018 20:07, Nicolás Echániz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > During the meeting one of the subjects that was raised but we

> > time to address is the reach-out process and candidates

> > > > I propose that we create in this thread a list of the community > networks > > we would like to invite. > > > > Considering the Special Interest Group is meant to be global, I > believe > > it is important to try to keep some regional balance in the > group over time. > > > > There were two candidates previously mentioned. Let's grow this

> > with the communities we would like to reach out to. I'd suggest > that we > > also add some contact names for each organization. > > > > So, starting the list: > > > > - guifi.net <http://guifi.net> (Roger Baig Viñas, Ramón Roca,

> > - Freifunk (Elektra Wagenrad, Monic Meisel, André Gaul...) > > - Wlan-slovenia (Luka Mustafa/Musti, ...) > > - Digital Empowerment Foundation (Ritu Srivastava, Osama Manzar, > ...) > > - PeoplesOpen/SudoMesh (JennyRyan, ...) > > - ... > > > > > > Cheers! > > NicoEchániz > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Council mailing list > > Council(a)lists.cnsig.info <mailto:Council@lists.cnsig.info> > > https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council > <https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Council mailing list > Council(a)lists.cnsig.info <mailto:Council@lists.cnsig.info> > https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council > <https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council> > > > > > -- > Sol Luca de Tena > > e: sol(a)zenzeleni.net <mailto:sol@zenzeleni.net> > c: (+27/0) 839 47 4946 > w: zenzeleni.net <http://zenzeleni.net> > Skype: sol.lucadetena > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxTPSWMX26M > > *Zenzeleni Networks NPC* > - Winner of Best Innovation with Social Impact Award, Innovation > Bridge 2017 > - Finalist of Mozilla Equal Rating Innovation Challenge, 2017 > > > _______________________________________________ > Council mailing list > Council(a)lists.cnsig.info > https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council _______________________________________________ Council mailing list Council(a)lists.cnsig.info https://lists.cnsig.info/mailman/listinfo/council