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Amuza

16 Jun 2017 16 Jun '17

2:50 p.m.

Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs: 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer auto-discovery. It is already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature.

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Nicolas Pace

19 Jun 19 Jun

9:26 a.m.

On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote:

...

Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs:

Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use upstream for this :)

...

0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer auto-discovery. It is already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature.

Thanks Amuza! Have been looking for this application layer functionality... i think we need to dig more on this part. Are you doing something in this area? Regards,

Amuza

10:35 a.m.

On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote:

...

On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote:

Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs:

Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use upstream for this :)

Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at all.

...

Thanks Amuza! Have been looking for this application layer functionality... i think we need to dig more on this part. Are you doing something in this area?

Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add LAN peer auto-discovery.

...

Regards, _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users

Patricio Gibbs

26 Jul 26 Jul

12:54 a.m.

Does Briar do LAN peer auto-discovery? It just went to public beta. https://briarproject.org/manual On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote:

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On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote:

On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote:

Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs:

Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use upstream for this :)

Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at all.

Thanks Amuza! Have been looking for this application layer functionality... i think we need to dig more on this part. Are you doing something in this area?

Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add LAN peer auto-discovery.

Regards, _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users

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bruno vianna

29 Jul 29 Jul

4:04 p.m.

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Does Briar do LAN peer auto-discovery? It just went to public beta. https://briarproject.org/manual On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote:

On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote:

On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote:

Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs:

Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use upstream for this :)

Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at all. 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer auto-discovery. It is

already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature. Thanks Amuza!

Have been looking for this application layer functionality... i think we need to dig more on this part. Are you doing something in this area?

Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add LAN peer auto-discovery.

Regards, _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users

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Amuza

11 Feb 11 Feb

3:28 p.m.

On 16/06/17 16:50, Amuza wrote:

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Done. Tested. It works.

...

1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery).

Done (v.0.6.3). Tested. It works -thank you Gio!

...

2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature.

Done (v.0.6.2). Tested. It works! So we have asynchronous messaging, lists, chats, forums and now websites! No server. No Internet connection. It deserves a party!

guifipedro

5:22 p.m.

Is there a CLI / TUI for retroshare similar to irssi or weechat ?

Amuza

7:30 p.m.

On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote:

...

I installed it, and it doesn't seem like it. The way you add new contact is pretty clever (two devices face to face scanning their qr-codes), but I'd prefer to have it auto-discover peers in my local network.... On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Patricio Gibbs <patricio(a)altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>> wrote: Does Briar do LAN peer auto-discovery? It just went to public beta. https://briarproject.org/manual <https://briarproject.org/manual>

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On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote: On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote: On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote: Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs: Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use upstream for this :) Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at all. 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer auto-discovery. It is already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature. Thanks Amuza! Have been looking for this application layer functionality... i think we need to dig more on this part. Are you doing something in this area? Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add LAN peer auto-discovery. Regards, _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> -- bruno(a)pobox.com <mailto:bruno@pobox.com> ▀─█▄██▄▀▄ http://brunovianna.net <http://brunovianna.net/> ─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄ skype: randomico▀─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄▌██─█▌█▌ _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users

modante＠disroot.org

13 Feb 13 Feb

12:26 p.m.

Great! Any friend to add me to the retroshare net? I recently installed and I like it! :-) Thanks :-) 11 de febrero de 2018 12:29, "Amuza" <amuza(a)riseup.net> escribió:

...

On 16/06/17 16:50, Amuza wrote:

Done. Tested. It works.

1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery).

Done (v.0.6.3). Tested. It works -thank you Gio!

2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature.

Done (v.0.6.2). Tested. It works! So we have asynchronous messaging, lists, chats, forums and now websites! No server. No Internet connection. It deserves a party! _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users

modante＠disroot.org

12:27 p.m.

Sorry. My RetroShare cert: CQEGAcGYxsBNBFqC1xEBCADFPiUFOdCFtxrQJmID0AgZS2jPisVgS8Vb0qkOuw7m fPII9/fso+pRFT6X9+7EBmSub0J1ajzWola0/T6AoRIA7qftD4/LLCuIxABU1LjU tpbFAi3T9QF6c6wMqhgR0ecJFIohY7+Ocq5iPqePIX/aUdR464O3C0dYkxzYvbEr 4v6N6c0QSiB0p+bsWEZJskh0FQAOLe7Q68ORxY1ks5LYR6K8kJW4mNcD41dSQUau vcOt85nmeMdDjQLQb1Do4g7QCtksoDOPs8ZDTecWiRLV9zLYW2pnqLFCBxeouzW6 M+5wyz1nvkRvQJtMM+fkNX0OZ7KlsQ8O244N7dEbTd1NABEBAAHNJG1vZGFudGUg KEdlbmVyYXRlZCBieSBSZXRyb1NoYXJlKSA8PsLAXwQTAQIAEwUCWoLXEQkQtvYO ws2ocXMCGQEAAINjB/9dKFr22cf61T+/Vdz/z0iRV5wUqRpqfn36Z7zs/R2+pnYj yzDjp/8pIQFldn1tF49RMrKx/jd8ohZsnuHT59ZWRJC8txXseqi6YYG4WFCYDQj+ J9662P+1bFzN24PVVIcjkZ5Z53rhTrkc5unO/i38q3UgXqDDJjskFN8xPAxQoyNs lekD2DLPngGci+l4a7Juus6ux3upumqsRnyRLCsrCB0UIzYO1i16/WmFfmQcQ2Q+ mF0tnajxtxIe6d2tpUcXYxnnsaefktkEzInae7CIKRDRoPNHbeEysu7qyYwqWfCK s7Q7u0z9kmMSZ3Tr00DFyOkW3ZmJ4AQfKTgC4ClYAgYAAAAAAAADBgoNYrKclgQA BgtNeSBjb21wdXRlcgUQ3aOKu0lE+6bufSKxY6WMIAcDXthS Thanks :-) 11 de febrero de 2018 12:29, "Amuza" <amuza(a)riseup.net> escribió:

...

On 16/06/17 16:50, Amuza wrote:

Done. Tested. It works.

1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery).

Done (v.0.6.3). Tested. It works -thank you Gio!

2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature.

Patricio Gibbs

17 Aug 17 Aug

1:42 a.m.

New subject: [lime-users] p2p LAN messaging (was Little steps in the good direction)

Revisiting this thread because we're about to have 6x more people using our network for a week... I have created a page on the wiki for this infor since I think that's a more elegant and useful way to curate this information. The wiki page is: https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/wiki/LAN-messaging-apps The content of that page is copied here for convenience. ~ Pato COPY OF WIKI PAGE: What p2p apps do we know of that work on computers and/or cell phones that can do chat (asynchronous?), calls, and/or file sharing on the LAN? Peer auto-discovery is optional. Previously mentioned on this thread: RetroShare - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: Ring, https://ring.cx/ - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: https://ring.cx/ Briar - platform: Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: no, initial connection face-to-face - functions: text chat - stability/usability: - website: https://briarproject.org/ Scuttlebutt / Patchwork / Patchbay - platform: Linux/Windows/Mac yes, Android in alpha - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: www.scuttlebutt.nz Bitmessage - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: ZeroNet - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: KouChat - platform: Linux, Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: yes - functions: synchronous text messaging, file sending - stability/usability: some messages get dropped, otherwise very simple and easy - website: WiFi Walkie Talkie On 02/11/2018 02:30 PM, Amuza wrote:

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On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote:

On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote: On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote: On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote: Hey sisters, Let me share some good news for community networks -and bad ones for ISPs: Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use upstream for this :) Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at all. 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer auto-discovery. It is already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous messaging working (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of LAN peer auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature. Thanks Amuza! Have been looking for this application layer functionality... i think we need to dig more on this part. Are you doing something in this area? Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add LAN peer auto-discovery. Regards, _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> -- <mailto:bruno@pobox.com>bruno@pobox.com ▀─█▄██▄▀▄ http://brunovianna.net <http://brunovianna.net/> ─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄ skype: randomico▀─█▄██▄▀█▀█▄▌██─█▌█▌ _______________________________________________ lime-users mailing list lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users

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Luandro Viera

2:52 a.m.

New subject: [lime-users] p2p LAN messaging (was Little steps in the good direction)

There's also Dat <https://datproject.org/>. I've been working with a Scuttlebot and Dat stack is has been serving all of my needs. Em qui, 16 de ago de 2018 às 22:42, Patricio Gibbs <patricio(a)altermundi.net> escreveu:

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On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote:

I think both Briar [0] and Ring [1] are supposed to work in the LAN. I tried them both a couple of times but they both gave me different problems. They may be working now. If not, I guess -and hope- sooner or later they will, as I think both projects are being developed actively. If anyone tests them please let us know the results. [0] https://briarproject.org/ [1] https://ring.cx/ > On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote: > > > > On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote: > > Hey sisters, > > Let me share some good news for community networks > -and bad ones for > ISPs: > > Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use > upstream for > this :) > > > Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at > all. > > 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer > auto-discovery. It is > already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. > > 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous > messaging working > (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). > > 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of > LAN peer > auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature. > > Thanks Amuza! > Have been looking for this application layer > functionality... i think > we need to dig more on this part. > > Are you doing something in this area? > > > Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add > LAN peer auto-discovery. > > > Regards, > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:

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Luandro Viera

2:54 a.m.

New subject: [lime-users] p2p LAN messaging (was Little steps in the good direction)

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On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote:

they

will, as I think both projects are being developed actively. If anyone tests them please let us know the results. [0] https://briarproject.org/ [1] https://ring.cx/ > On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote: > > > > On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza wrote: > > Hey sisters, > > Let me share some good news for community networks > -and bad ones for > ISPs: > > Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they don't use > upstream for > this :) > > > Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being needed at > all. > > 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer > auto-discovery. It is > already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it works. > > 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous > messaging working > (Retroshare already has LAN peer auto-discovery). > > 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the importance of > LAN peer > auto-discovery and they are going to add this feature. > > Thanks Amuza! > Have been looking for this application layer > functionality... i think > we need to dig more on this part. > > Are you doing something in this area? > > > Just pushing any decentralized project I like so that they add > LAN peer auto-discovery. > > > Regards, > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org > <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org> > https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users > <https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users> > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org <mailto:

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Patricio Gibbs

3:49 a.m.

New subject: [lime-users] p2p LAN messaging (was Little steps in the good direction)

Cool, I added this to the page: # Cabal - platform: Android, iOS, desktop via Electron - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: LAN and internet, text chat, channels - stability/usability: - languages of user interface: - website: https://cabal-club.github.io/ Can you fill in the blanks? And how does it affect battery life on your phone? Also, I added Twisted, which showed up when I searched for "chat" in the LibreMesh packages. I figure a non-p2p option meets my needs if the server can run on a LibreMesh router. ~ P On 08/16/2018 09:54 PM, Luandro Viera wrote:

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Forgot to link to some Dat applications. There's a chat app called cabal for desktop <https://github.com/cabal-club/cabal-desktop> and mobile <https://github.com/cabal-club/cabal-mobile>. Em qui, 16 de ago de 2018 às 23:52, Luandro Viera <luandro(a)gmail.com <mailto:luandro@gmail.com>> escreveu: There's also Dat <https://datproject.org/>. I've been working with a Scuttlebot and Dat stack is has been serving all of my needs. Em qui, 16 de ago de 2018 às 22:42, Patricio Gibbs <patricio(a)altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>> escreveu: Revisiting this thread because we're about to have 6x more people using our network for a week... I have created a page on the wiki for this infor since I think that's a more elegant and useful way to curate this information. The wiki page is: https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/wiki/LAN-messaging-apps The content of that page is copied here for convenience. ~ Pato COPY OF WIKI PAGE: What p2p apps do we know of that work on computers and/or cell phones that can do chat (asynchronous?), calls, and/or file sharing on the LAN? Peer auto-discovery is optional. Previously mentioned on this thread: RetroShare - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: Ring, https://ring.cx/ - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: https://ring.cx/ Briar - platform: Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: no, initial connection face-to-face - functions: text chat - stability/usability: - website: https://briarproject.org/ Scuttlebutt / Patchwork / Patchbay - platform: Linux/Windows/Mac yes, Android in alpha - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: www.scuttlebutt.nz <http://www.scuttlebutt.nz> Bitmessage - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: ZeroNet - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: KouChat - platform: Linux, Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: yes - functions: synchronous text messaging, file sending - stability/usability: some messages get dropped, otherwise very simple and easy - website: WiFi Walkie Talkie On 02/11/2018 02:30 PM, Amuza wrote:

On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote: > I installed it, and it doesn't seem like it. > > The way you add new contact is pretty clever (two devices

face to face

> scanning their qr-codes), but I'd prefer to have it

auto-discover

> peers in my local network.... > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Patricio Gibbs > <patricio(a)altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>>> wrote:

> > Does Briar do LAN peer auto-discovery? > It just went to public beta. > https://briarproject.org/manual

<https://briarproject.org/manual>

I think both Briar [0] and Ring [1] are supposed to work in

the LAN.

I tried them both a couple of times but they both gave me

different

problems. They may be working now. If not, I guess -and hope- sooner or

later they

networks

> -and bad ones for > ISPs: > > Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they

don't use

> upstream for > this :) > > > Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being

needed at

> all. > > 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer > auto-discovery. It is > already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it

works.

> > 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous > messaging working > (Retroshare already has LAN peer

auto-discovery).

> > 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the

importance of

> LAN peer > auto-discovery and they are going to add

this feature.

> > Thanks Amuza! > Have been looking for this application layer > functionality... i think > we need to dig more on this part. > > Are you doing something in this area? > > > Just pushing any decentralized project I like so

that they add

> LAN peer auto-discovery. > > > Regards, > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org

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> <mailto:lime-users@lists.libremesh.org

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> https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users >

<https://lists.libremesh.org/mailman/listinfo/lime-users>

> > > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org

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https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/wiki/LAN-messaging-apps

The content of that page is copied here for convenience. ~ Pato COPY OF WIKI PAGE: What p2p apps do we know of that work on computers and/or cell phones that can do chat (asynchronous?), calls, and/or file sharing on the LAN? Peer auto-discovery is optional. Previously mentioned on this thread: RetroShare - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: Ring, https://ring.cx/ - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: https://ring.cx/ Briar - platform: Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: no, initial connection face-to-face - functions: text chat - stability/usability: - website: https://briarproject.org/ Scuttlebutt / Patchwork / Patchbay - platform: Linux/Windows/Mac yes, Android in alpha - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: www.scuttlebutt.nz <http://www.scuttlebutt.nz> Bitmessage - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: ZeroNet - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: KouChat - platform: Linux, Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: yes - functions: synchronous text messaging, file sending - stability/usability: some messages get dropped, otherwise very simple and easy - website: WiFi Walkie Talkie On 02/11/2018 02:30 PM, Amuza wrote:

On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote: > I installed it, and it doesn't seem like it. > > The way you add new contact is pretty clever (two devices

face to face

> scanning their qr-codes), but I'd prefer to have it

auto-discover

> peers in my local network.... > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Patricio Gibbs > <patricio(a)altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>>> wrote:

> > Does Briar do LAN peer auto-discovery? > It just went to public beta. > https://briarproject.org/manual

<https://briarproject.org/manual>

I think both Briar [0] and Ring [1] are supposed to work in

the LAN.

I tried them both a couple of times but they both gave me

different

problems. They may be working now. If not, I guess -and hope- sooner or

later they

networks

> -and bad ones for > ISPs: > > Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they

don't use

> upstream for > this :) > > > Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up not being

needed at

> all. > > 0.- Bitmessage has been working on LAN peer > auto-discovery. It is > already in v0.6 branch, we tested it and it

works.

> > 1.- Retroshare will finally have asynchronous > messaging working > (Retroshare already has LAN peer

auto-discovery).

> > 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the

importance of

> LAN peer > auto-discovery and they are going to add

this feature.

that they add

> LAN peer auto-discovery. > > > Regards, > > > _______________________________________________ > lime-users mailing list > lime-users(a)lists.libremesh.org

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8:22 a.m.

New subject: [lime-users] p2p LAN messaging (was Little steps in the good direction)

Nice! Thank you Pato! I would add the following: RetroShare - Asynchronous messaging: Yes. - Antifeatures/disadvantages: Chaotic documentation. Briar - Antifeatures/disadvantages: It does not work with Replicant, as it requires Bluetooth to add contacts. Bitmessage - Asynchronous messaging: Yes. - Antifeatures/disadvantages: At current version, messages received are not perfectly organized chronologically yet. ZeroNet - Asynchronous messaging: Yes. - Antifeatures/disadvantages: Most of the zites require a JavaScript-enabled browser to be functional. Tox - Asynchronous messaging: No. Freenet - Asynchronous messaging: Yes. - Antifeatures/disadvantages: Slow. Cheers! On 17/08/18 06:00, Luandro Viera wrote:

...

Both Scuttlebot and Dat have LAN peer auto-discovery. Although cabal apps are quite new, I'd say they're pretty stable, given they are very simple. I believe they are in English only. Em sex, 17 de ago de 2018 às 00:50, Patricio Gibbs <patricio(a)altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>> escreveu: Cool, I added this to the page: # Cabal - platform: Android, iOS, desktop via Electron - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: LAN and internet, text chat, channels - stability/usability: - languages of user interface: - website: https://cabal-club.github.io/ Can you fill in the blanks? And how does it affect battery life on your phone? Also, I added Twisted, which showed up when I searched for "chat" in the LibreMesh packages. I figure a non-p2p option meets my needs if the server can run on a LibreMesh router. ~ P On 08/16/2018 09:54 PM, Luandro Viera wrote:

Forgot to link to some Dat applications. There's a chat app

called cabal

for desktop <https://github.com/cabal-club/cabal-desktop> and

mobile

<https://github.com/cabal-club/cabal-mobile>. Em qui, 16 de ago de 2018 às 23:52, Luandro Viera

<luandro(a)gmail.com <mailto:luandro@gmail.com>

<mailto:luandro@gmail.com <mailto:luandro@gmail.com>>> escreveu: There's also Dat <https://datproject.org/>. I've been

working with a

Scuttlebot and Dat stack is has been serving all of my needs. Em qui, 16 de ago de 2018 às 22:42, Patricio Gibbs <patricio(a)altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>>> escreveu:

Revisiting this thread because we're about to have 6x more people using our network for a week... I have created a page on the wiki for this infor since I

think

that's a more elegant and useful way to curate this information.

The wiki

page is:

https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/wiki/LAN-messaging-apps

The content of that page is copied here for convenience. ~ Pato COPY OF WIKI PAGE: What p2p apps do we know of that work on computers

and/or cell

phones that can do chat (asynchronous?), calls, and/or file

sharing on

the LAN? Peer auto-discovery is optional. Previously mentioned on this thread: RetroShare - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: Ring, https://ring.cx/ - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: https://ring.cx/ Briar - platform: Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: no, initial connection

face-to-face

- functions: text chat - stability/usability: - website: https://briarproject.org/ Scuttlebutt / Patchwork / Patchbay - platform: Linux/Windows/Mac yes, Android in alpha - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: www.scuttlebutt.nz

<http://www.scuttlebutt.nz> <http://www.scuttlebutt.nz>

Bitmessage - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: ZeroNet - platform: - LAN peer auto-discovery: - functions: - stability/usability: - website: KouChat - platform: Linux, Android - LAN peer auto-discovery: yes - functions: synchronous text messaging, file sending - stability/usability: some messages get dropped,

otherwise very

simple and easy - website: WiFi Walkie Talkie On 02/11/2018 02:30 PM, Amuza wrote: > > > On 29/07/17 18:04, bruno vianna wrote: >> I installed it, and it doesn't seem like it. >> >> The way you add new contact is pretty clever (two

devices

face to face

> scanning their qr-codes), but I'd prefer to have it

auto-discover >> peers in my local network.... >> >> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Patricio Gibbs >> <patricio(a)altermundi.net

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net> <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net <mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>>

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net

<mailto:patricio@altermundi.net>>>> wrote:

> > Does Briar do LAN peer auto-discovery? > It just went to public beta. > https://briarproject.org/manual

<https://briarproject.org/manual> >> >> > I think both Briar [0] and Ring [1] are supposed to

work in

the LAN.

I tried them both a couple of times but they both gave me

different > problems. > They may be working now. If not, I guess -and hope-

sooner or

later they > will, as I think both projects are being developed

actively.

> If anyone tests them please let us know the results. > > [0] https://briarproject.org/ > [1] https://ring.cx/ > > >> On 06/19/2017 05:35 AM, Amuza wrote: >> >> >> >> On 19/06/17 11:26, Nicolas Pace wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 16:50 +0200, Amuza

wrote:

>> >> Hey sisters, >> >> Let me share some good news for

community

networks

> -and bad ones for > ISPs: > > Actually, ISPs also get benefited cause they

don't use >> upstream for >> this :) >> >> >> Yes. But I meant ideally ISPs might end up

not being

needed at >> all. >> >> 0.- Bitmessage has been working on

LAN peer

>> auto-discovery. It is >> already in v0.6 branch, we tested it

and it

works. >> >> 1.- Retroshare will finally have

asynchronous

> messaging working > (Retroshare already has LAN peer

auto-discovery).

> > 2.- Impressive ZeroNet is aware of the

importance of

> LAN peer > auto-discovery and they are going to add

this feature.

that they add >> LAN peer auto-discovery. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >>

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